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Instead of trying to bring NNJ down, why don't you mention some of Long islands great towns and cities. I'm sure if you'd do that, then we can all compare and civilly state our opinions of each place.
C'mon, someone boasts NNJ towns as exciting becasue of golf courses, convenience stores and movie theaters they have. That alone is a testament to how boring NNJ is.
I am not trying to bring NNJ down but simply expressing my opinion based on plenty of time I spent in the area (as well in South Jersey) and in my opinion NNJ is pretty much boring suburbia that with an exception of Hoboken and Montclair has not much too offer. NNJ close to New York city is a postindustrial dump (Irvington, Elisabeth, Newark, Patterson). Colorless town like Passaic, Clifton, Wayne and the rest endless boring suburbia where a movie theaters and malls (often in the same location) are the only sources of excitement... Bored Jersey kids mindlessly hanging around shopping malls for nothing better to do. Not much in terms of arts and culture is going on there. New Jersey altogehter is one of the most boring states in the nation. Thanks to its proximity to the city it is extremely affluent yet never aspired to create any cultural centers and actual culture. Yes, there are galleries and theaters but nothing on a national or international scale. Very sad considering how affluent the state is... I guess it's the mentality of New Jerseyans, not really interested in anything besides their lawns and BMWs...
Long Island on the other hand due to its proximity to the city with no natural borders have always been influenced by the city. Thousands and thousands of New Yorkers have moved to Long Island looking for more affordable housing and slower pace long before New Jersey become attractive in this respect. The Hamptons, Fire Islands have always attracted rich New Yorkers additionaly strenghtening ties between the two areas. Long Island has a real beach culture with some of its beaches being considered the best in the US, like the Southhampton's Cooper's Beach beach ranked by National Geographic as the third best beach in the US: BEST BEACHES: Top Ten U.S. Shores of 2009 in Pictures
List of Long Island beaches, look them up:
Rockaway Beach
Far Rockaway
Atlantic Beach: private beach on a southern barrier island in Nassau County
Nickerson Beach, (Long Beach)
Long Beach
Town of Hempstead Beaches at Point Lookout and Lido
Town of North Hempstead Beaches: Bar Beach and Hempstead Harbor
Town of Oyster Bay Beaches: Tobay, Stehli, Centre Island
Cedar Beach (Fire Island)
Jones Beach (Nassau County) - one of the most famous in the world
Captree State Park
Robert Moses State Park (Suffolk County)
Sunken Meadow State Park, Kings Park in Suffolk County
Town of Islip Beaches: Islip, East Islip, West Islip, Bayport and Ronkonkoma Beaches, Sayville Marina Park, Benjamin Beach at Bay Shore Marina, and several along the barrier beach of Fire Island, including Atlantique, Kismet, Dunewood, and Fair Harbor
Town of Babylon Beaches: Gilgo Beach, Cedar Beach, and Overlook Beach
Town of Brookhaven Beaches: West Meadow, Cedar, Shirley, Shoreham, Stony Brook, Cedar Beach (Mount Sinai)
Town of Riverhead beaches, including Iron Pier Beach
Town of Southold Beaches: Kenny's Road, Horton Lane, and Hashamomuck Beaches.
Town of Smithtown Beaches: Short Beach, Long Beach, Callahan's Beach
Town of Huntington Beaches: Asharoken, Centerport, Crab Meadow, Crescent, Gold Star Battalion, Hobart, Fleets Cove, West Neck
Southampton Town Beaches: Tiana, Ponquogue, and various others on Dune Road and Gin Lane
Smith Point County Park (Suffolk County)
Cupsogue Beach County Park
Hampton Bays in Town of Southampton area suffolk county (Beaches:Pounquoge beach, meshutt beach on Peconic bay, Shinnecock Inlet beach, K road, L road, Tiana beach, and Road I on both Shinnecock bay and ocean.)
East Hampton Main beach
Hither Hills State Park
Montauk Point State Park
C'mon, someone boasts NNJ towns as exciting becasue of golf courses, convenience stores and movie theaters they have. That alone is a testament to how boring NNJ is.
I am not trying to bring NNJ down but simply expressing my opinion based on plenty of time I spent in the area (as well in South Jersey) and in my opinion NNJ is pretty much boring suburbia that with an exception of Hoboken and Montclair has not much too offer. NNJ close to New York city is a postindustrial dump (Irvington, Elisabeth, Newark, Patterson). Colorless town like Passaic, Clifton, Wayne and the rest endless boring suburbia where a movie theaters and malls (often in the same location) are the only sources of excitement... Bored Jersey kids mindlessly hanging around shopping malls for nothing better to do. Not much in terms of arts and culture is going on there. New Jersey altogehter is one of the most boring states in the nation. Thanks to its proximity to the city it is extremely affluent yet never aspired to create any cultural centers and actual culture. Yes, there are galleries and theaters but nothing on a national or international scale. Very sad considering how affluent the state is... I guess it's the mentality of New Jerseyans, not really interested in anything besides their lawns and BMWs...
Long Island on the other hand due to its proximity to the city with no natural borders have always been influenced by the city. Thousands and thousands of New Yorkers have moved to Long Island looking for more affordable housing and slower pace long before New Jersey become attractive in this respect. The Hamptons, Fire Islands have always attracted rich New Yorkers additionaly strenghtening ties between the two areas. Long Island has a real beach culture with some of its beaches being considered the best in the US, like the Southhampton's Cooper's Beach beach ranked by National Geographic as the third best beach in the US: BEST BEACHES: Top Ten U.S. Shores of 2009 in Pictures
List of Long Island beaches, look them up:
Rockaway Beach
Far Rockaway
Atlantic Beach: private beach on a southern barrier island in Nassau County
Nickerson Beach, (Long Beach)
Long Beach
Town of Hempstead Beaches at Point Lookout and Lido
Town of North Hempstead Beaches: Bar Beach and Hempstead Harbor
Town of Oyster Bay Beaches: Tobay, Stehli, Centre Island
Cedar Beach (Fire Island)
Jones Beach (Nassau County) - one of the most famous in the world
Captree State Park
Robert Moses State Park (Suffolk County)
Sunken Meadow State Park, Kings Park in Suffolk County
Town of Islip Beaches: Islip, East Islip, West Islip, Bayport and Ronkonkoma Beaches, Sayville Marina Park, Benjamin Beach at Bay Shore Marina, and several along the barrier beach of Fire Island, including Atlantique, Kismet, Dunewood, and Fair Harbor
Town of Babylon Beaches: Gilgo Beach, Cedar Beach, and Overlook Beach
Town of Brookhaven Beaches: West Meadow, Cedar, Shirley, Shoreham, Stony Brook, Cedar Beach (Mount Sinai)
Town of Riverhead beaches, including Iron Pier Beach
Town of Southold Beaches: Kenny's Road, Horton Lane, and Hashamomuck Beaches.
Town of Smithtown Beaches: Short Beach, Long Beach, Callahan's Beach
Town of Huntington Beaches: Asharoken, Centerport, Crab Meadow, Crescent, Gold Star Battalion, Hobart, Fleets Cove, West Neck
Southampton Town Beaches: Tiana, Ponquogue, and various others on Dune Road and Gin Lane
Smith Point County Park (Suffolk County)
Cupsogue Beach County Park
Hampton Bays in Town of Southampton area suffolk county (Beaches:Pounquoge beach, meshutt beach on Peconic bay, Shinnecock Inlet beach, K road, L road, Tiana beach, and Road I on both Shinnecock bay and ocean.)
East Hampton Main beach
Hither Hills State Park
Montauk Point State Park
Ok, and your still bringing NNJ down out of ignorance.
Long Island has beaches, NNJ has mountains; Topography. Your naming beach towns that offer nothing more but a beach and the suburb that goes along with it (why not name all of NJ's appalachian towns?). What do these towns offer in terms of culture? I mean your going off saying NNJ has little to no culture, so why not give us example of Long Islands culture? (besides that it borders Queens)
NNJ has plenty of culture such as NJPAC in Newark (the sixth largest performing arts center in the United States), Liberty Science Center in Jersey City (most visited science museum), Xanadu in East Rutherford (the countries largest retail and entertainment center), Newark Museum of world artifacts (where it's tibetan galleries are noted "the best in the world"), The IMAX Dome in Jersey City (the wolrds largest IMAX theater), the Thomas Edison National Historical Park in West Orange, ellis and liberty island (since Jersey city provides harbor cruises to these islands in which they're closer), the Jersey City Museum (which reflects the cultural diversity of New Jersey), The Prudential Center in Newark (a multi-purpose arena that also hosts the New Jersey Devils), and The IZOD center in East Rutherford (a multi pirpose arena that host the NJ Nets and is one of the oldest arenas in the NBA)
Note that all this is only in the northern region of NJ.
NNJ has plenty of culture such as NJPAC in Newark (the sixth largest performing arts center in the United States), Liberty Science Center in Jersey City (most visited science museum), Xanadu in East Rutherford (the countries largest retail and entertainment center), Newark Museum of world artifacts (where it's tibetan galleries are noted "the best in the world"), The IMAX Dome in Jersey City (the wolrds largest IMAX theater), the Thomas Edison National Historical Park in West Orange, ellis and liberty island (since Jersey city provides harbor cruises to these islands in which they're closer), the Jersey City Museum (which reflects the cultural diversity of New Jersey), The Prudential Center in Newark (a multi-purpose arena that also hosts the New Jersey Devils), and The IZOD center in East Rutherford (a multi pirpose arena that host the NJ Nets and is one of the oldest arenas in the NBA)
Note that all this is only in the northern region of NJ.
That's countryside culture: the largest this or biggest that. Largest so it must be good.
Does it make NJPAC anything else then a large arena? Does this make Liberty Science Center an incubator of arts? Xanadu - the "largest retail and entertainment center"? That sounds like "retail culture" to me....
Like your predecessor you list arenas and movie theaters (Imax) as examples of culture. Is this what art and culture stands for in New Jersey?
How about art galleries? How much do you want to bet Long Island has more art gallaries than North Jersey? Do you know why?
Take a peek: this is a list of galleries in the Hamptons area alone!
Amagansett Art Galleries
Artscapes
PO Box 36
Amagansett, NY 11930
(631) 329-3944
The Art Barge & Victor D'Amico Institute ofArt
Napeague Harbor off Napeague Meadow Road
Amagansett, NY 11930
(631) 267-3172
Artists' Woods
403 Abrahams Path
Amagansett, NY 11930
(631) 267-7909 Butler's Fine Art & Antiques
303 Main Street
Amagansett, NY 11930
(631) 267-0193
The Crazy Monkey
136 Main Street
Amagansett, NY 11930
(631) 267-3627
Dragon Gallery
216 Main Street
Amagansett, NY 11930
(631) 267-9888 Bill Durham
(By Appointment Only)
434 Main Street
Amagansett, NY 11930
(631) 267-6305
Estia Restaurant
Main Street
Amagansett, NY 11930
(631) 267-6320
Victor & Mabel D'Amico Studio & Archive
Shore Road
Amagansett, NY 11930
(631) 267-3172
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Bridgehampton Art Galleries
Clayton & Liberatore Gallery
Montauk Highway
Bridgehampton, NY 11932
(631) 537-0136
Country Pottery
Sag Harbor Turnpike
Bridgehampton, NY 11932
(631) 537-0572
Dia Center for the Arts & the Dan Flavin Art Institute
Corwith Avenue & Main Streety
Bridgehampton, NY 11932
(631) 537-1476 Elaine Benson Gallery
Montauk Highway
Bridgehampton, NY 11932
(631) 537-3233
Goodman James Gallery
Sagaponack Road
Bridgehampton, NY 11932
(631) 537-7571
Harrison & Harrison
Main Street
Bridgehampton, NY 11932
(631) 537-7474 Sundance Gallery
Main Street
Bridgehampton, NY 11932
(631) 537-5513
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East Hampton Art Galleries
Ann Kolb Gallery
46 Main Street
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-3443
Arlene Bujese Gallery
66 Newtown Lane
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-2823
Bologna Francesco Art Studio
49 Sag Harbor Road
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-9775
Coach Store Gallery
69 Main Street
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 329-1777
The Frame Shop
257 Montauk
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-8620
Gallery East
257 Pantigo Road
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-9393
Gallery Select Ltd
6 Main Street
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 329-5550 Giraffics Gallery
79A Newtown Lane
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 329-0803
Glenn Horowitz Bookseller
87 Newtown Lane
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-5511
Guild Hall Museum
158 Main Street
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-0806
Lizan Tops
66 Newtown Lane
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-3424
Longhouse Reserve
133 Hands Creek Road
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 329-3568
Millennium Gallery
62 Park Place
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 329-2288
Morgan Rank Gallery
4 Newtown Lane
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-7615 Pritam & Eames
29 Race Lane
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-7111
Renee Fotouhi Fine Arts
16 Newtown Lane
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-8939
Solar
132 North Main Street
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 907-8422
Vered Art Gallery
66 Park Place
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 324-3303
Wallace Gallery East Hampton
62 Park Place
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 329-4516
Wally Findlay Galleries
2 Main Street
East Hampton, NY 11937
(631) 329-9794
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Montauk Art Galleries
Marine Arts & Gifts
99 The Plaza
Montauk, NY 11954
(631) 668-4575
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Sag Harbor Art Galleries
Annyx
150 Main Street
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(631) 725-9064
Canio's Gallery
290 Main Street
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(631) 725-4926
Gallery Merz
95 Main Street
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(631) 725-2803 Goat Alley Gallery
Henry Street
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(631) 725-1902
Grenning Gallery
90 Main Street
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(631) 725-8469
Paradise
126 Main Street
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(631) 725-6080 RomaNY Kramoris Gallery
Main Street
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(631) 725-2499
Sag Harbor Picture Gallery
66 Main Street
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(631) 725-3100
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Southampton Art Galleries
Avram Gallery
(Southampton College)
239 Montauk Highway
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 287-8427
Chrysallis Gallery
2 Main Street
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 287-1883
Clark Fine Art
51A Job's Lane
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 283-5844
Gayle Willson Gallery
43 Job's Lane
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 283-7430
Gingras Gallery
70 Main Street
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 287-2917 Hampton Road Gallery
36 Hampton Road
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 204-9704
Mark Humphrey Gallery
95 Main Street
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 283-3113
Ossorio Foundation
164 Mariner Drive
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 287-2020
Parrish Art Museum
25 Job's Lane
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 283-2118
RVS Fine Art
20 Job's Lane
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 283-8546 Red Barn Atelier
88 North Main Street
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 287-3747
Southampton Cultural Center
Pond Lane
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 287-4377
Southampton Fine Art
848 North Sea Road
Southampton, NY 11968
(631) 283-6564
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Wainscott Art Galleries
Stone Road
Montauk Highway
Wainscott, NY 11975
(631) 537-5656
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Westhampton Art Galleries
Koener Art Gallery
88 Main Street
Westhampton, NY 11977
(631) 288-1017
That's countryside culture: the largest this or biggest that. Largest so it must be good.
Does it make NJPAC anything else then a large arena? Does this make Liberty Science Center an incubator of arts? Xanadu - the "largest retail and entertainment center"? That sounds like "retail culture" to me....
Like your predecessor you list arenas and movie theaters (Imax) as examples of culture. Is this what art and culture stands for in New Jersey?
How about art galleries? How much do you want to bet Long Island has more art gallaries than North Jersey? Do you know why?
Take a peek: this is a list of galleries in the Hamptons area alone!
Amagansett Art Galleries Artscapes PO Box 36 Amagansett, NY 11930 (631) 329-3944 The Art Barge & Victor D'Amico Institute ofArt Napeague Harbor off Napeague Meadow Road Amagansett, NY 11930 (631) 267-3172 Artists' Woods 403 Abrahams Path Amagansett, NY 11930 (631) 267-7909 Butler's Fine Art & Antiques 303 Main Street Amagansett, NY 11930 (631) 267-0193 The Crazy Monkey 136 Main Street Amagansett, NY 11930 (631) 267-3627 Dragon Gallery 216 Main Street Amagansett, NY 11930 (631) 267-9888 Bill Durham (By Appointment Only) 434 Main Street
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NJPAC is not an arena, it's a world class performing arts center.
And the IMAX dome in Jersey City is not only a movie theater, it's a part of a museum as well allowing you to feel like you're traveling through things like ecosystems, into space, and back in time.. but I'm sure every american movie theater offers these kinds of educational experiences.
Like your predecessors (The NYers here), you assume things.
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The Newark Museum is regarded as one of the United States' most extensive fine arts museums. Nothing on Long Island can compare to the Newark museum. (Though kudos to Long Island area for having such a wide range of galleries around the Hamptons.)
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...Anyway, I was just simply naming some of the bigger and more popular culture NNJ has to offer. I didn't know you wanted the little stuff as well
~ Newark's art and culture... (Besides the one's I mentioned- NJPAC & the Newark Mueseum)
AFRICAN GLOBE THEATRE WORKS
ALJIRA: A CENTER FOR CONTEMPORARY ART
THE ART GALLERY
THE CARTER G. WOODSON FOUNDATION
CATHEDRAL CONCERT SERIES
CITY WITHOUT WALLS
THE NEW JERSEY INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS CENTER
HALSEY STREET ART GALLERY
KIKAMO'S BLUES PEOPLE
NEWARK MEDIAWORKS
THE NEWARK COMMUNITY SCHOOL OF THE ARTS
NEWARK SYMPHONY HALL
THE NEW JERSEY HISTORICAL SOCIETY
THE NEW JERSEY STATE OPERA
THE NEW JERSEY SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
OPERA/MUSIC THEATRE INTERNATIONAL
THE RICHARDSON GALLERY
THE ROBESON GALLERY
THE RUTGERS INSTITUTE OF JAZZ STUDIES
NEWARK SCREENS ON SPRINGFIELD ~ "In recent years, Jersey City has experienced an arts explosion. As of 2000, there are more artists living and working in Jersey City than in New York's traditional artist haven, the SoHo district." //www.city-data.com/us-cities/T...ecreation.html
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What I don't understand is why people try to twist everything more and more once valid points are made about NJ. You don't see me trying to bring LI down to get my point across. It's just immature, arrogant, and just plain stupid.
NJPAC is not an arena, it's a world class performing arts center.
And the IMAX dome in Jersey City is not only a movie theater, it's a part of a museum as well allowing you to feel like you're traveling through things like ecosystems, into space, and back in time.. but I'm sure every american movie theater offers these kinds of educational experiences.
No. There is only one Imax in the world and located in New Jersey.
I can see how it is related to popular science, but culture?
I have kids, I've been there. Nice experience for kids, nothing more.
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The Newark Museum is regarded as one of the United States' most extensive fine arts museums. Nothing on Long Island can compare to the Newark museum. (Though kudos to Long Island area for having such a wide range of galleries around the Hamptons.)
...Anyway, I was just simply naming some of the bigger and more popular culture NNJ has to offer. I didn't know you wanted the little stuff as well
~ Newark's art and culture... (Besides the one's I mentioned- NJPAC & the Newark Mueseum)
AFRICAN GLOBE THEATRE WORKS
ALJIRA: A CENTER FOR CONTEMPORARY ART
THE ART GALLERY
THE CARTER G. WOODSON FOUNDATION
CATHEDRAL CONCERT SERIES
CITY WITHOUT WALLS
THE NEW JERSEY INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS CENTER
HALSEY STREET ART GALLERY
KIKAMO'S BLUES PEOPLE
NEWARK MEDIAWORKS
THE NEWARK COMMUNITY SCHOOL OF THE ARTS
NEWARK SYMPHONY HALL
THE NEW JERSEY HISTORICAL SOCIETY
THE NEW JERSEY STATE OPERA
THE NEW JERSEY SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
OPERA/MUSIC THEATRE INTERNATIONAL
THE RICHARDSON GALLERY
THE ROBESON GALLERY
THE RUTGERS INSTITUTE OF JAZZ STUDIES
NEWARK SCREENS ON SPRINGFIELD ~ "In recent years, Jersey City has experienced an arts explosion. As of 2000, there are more artists living and working in Jersey City than in New York's traditional artist haven, the SoHo district." //www.city-data.com/us-cities/T...ecreation.html
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Either way.. the polls speak for itself.
The poll reflects the fact that there are much more people living in NJ then in LI... Long Island has its own symphonic orchestra not some NJ State orchestra that exsits because the state feels it should have one...
You don't get it, it'ss not about art galleries around the Hamptons, this was just an example, Long Island has more galleries than the whole state of New Jersey and simply offers much more in terms of arts and culture being created in the area, which is a reflection of mentality of its residents as much as lack of thereof reflects mentality of New Jerseyans.
No. There is only one Imax in the world and located in New Jersey.
I can see how it is related to popular science, but culture?
I have kids, I've been there. Nice experience for kids, nothing more.
The poll reflects the fact that there are much more people living in NJ then in LI... Long Island has its own symphonic orchestra not some NJ State orchestra that exsits because the state feels it should have one...
You don't get it, it'ss not about art galleries around the Hamptons, this was just an example, Long Island has more galleries than the whole state of New Jersey and simply offers much more in terms of arts and culture being created in the area, which is a reflection of mentality of its residents as much as lack of thereof reflects mentality of New Jerseyans.
No, there's 320 IMAX theaters in the world.
Again, another false assumption. (there's an IMAX right in Rockland county, NY)
If you are referring to Long Island's Philharmonic, than I don't see how better it is than NJPAC because NJ's orchestra are a Grammy award winning orchestra while "The Long Island Philharmonic suffers from its proximity to the cultural attractions of New York City.[10] The geography of Long Island itself also poses a problem for the orchestra[11]. Because of the distances between East End suburbs and western exurb neighborhoods"
Give me proof that Long Island has more galleries than the state of NJ. Your consistent prior false assumptions makes me hard to believe this is true.
Once this arts and culture topic hangs over, what about jobs? New Jersey has more jobs than Long Island has to offer (and I'm excluding NYC). I don't know, but IMO, arts and culture can only go so far for me to determine what makes a place "better". The point is that NNJ has art and culture, does it really matter about the quantity of it? All I know is that many of NJ's museums and performing art centers are recognized as top-notch.
How do you think Long Island resident mentality is viewed? Sheesh.
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Oh and BTW, I wasn't being sarcastic when I was giving Long Island a pat on the back. Not everyone is a hater you know.
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Wow. I can't believe how interesting is Verona. Not one but two golf courses? And the great city of Red Bank has an actual convenience store right next to the train station? Wow. I can't believe how lucky you are to live in such an interesting area. You must be getting thousands of tourist, right?
You asked for picturesque towns, I listed them. You asked what there was to do in them, I listed that as well. Now your just being an ass.
Red Bank Also has some pretty happenen festivals from what I've heard.
You do NOT understand Wawa unless your from areas with it and how much of a treat it becomes when you're deprived of it. It is WAY more than just a "convenience store".
The golf courses in and around Verona attract celebrities and professional atheletes alike such as Yankee players and others who live in NNJ (not LI). Also, Yogi Berra lives in that area, just throwing that out there.
If you want interesting towns, try the shore, Asbury park has an awesome music scene. North Jersey has TONS of historical sigts (Lighthouses, Revolutinary Battel Grounds, museams, etc). Plus, Weird NJ/NJ's weirdness makes for BRILLIANT late night adventures
I'm from South Jersey, so I don't know everthing that's up in North Jersey since I only go to college there.
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You were asked what is interesting in Clifton and you responded by advertising a movie theater? What an astonishing city Clifton must be... This is so laughable.... Actual movie theater. In New Jersey?
That is very interesting, for college students in Newark where that's the closest movie theater. Also, there is a REALLY nice view of NYC on Rt. 3, but then and again, throughout NNJ there are really nice views of NYC
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Not really, they have an airport and JFK is almost on the boarder of Queens and LI.
Yes, but do you still have to put up with city driving? And it's STILL 1000x's easier to go to/from NNJ to the rest of the world than LI
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Really? You think that if NYC drivers manage to get somewhere in a 10M city divided by rivers they would somehow not manage on New Jersey suburban roads? Why?
Becuase I've seen it. I had a friend who was following me and was doing 35 in a 45 while I was doing about 55. The road went through the woods and he was scard to death of hitting a dear. It's like they don't know what to do without grid lock.
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Why? Do you think we all 35 on LIE or BQE? Have you ever been to New York outside of Manhattan?
Yes I have, but I notice that driving on highways through cities (note; I'm basing this on Philly and the Henry Hudson Parkway) is slower than ones that aren't through cities becuase there are FAR more cars on less road than on ones that don't go through cities. I have another friend who's slightly freeked out by roads without street lights. Also, NYer's from the city drive different from one's outside of the city, it's a suble but noticable difference. The not-city one's know how to handle back roads.
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And what exactly is city driving? Do you think there are no highways in NYC? And how did you know they were New Yorkers? You don't drive slow in the city, there is no time for it when you are trying to through the light... How did you com up with an idea that New Yorkers drive slow???
People drive slower in the city where there's a stop light every 1/4 of a mile and more cars on the road than ants in an ant hill, than they do on country roads where there's a stop sign every 10+ miles (can't do a "hollywood stop" at a traffic light) and VERY few cars.
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Five words: New York State of Mind.
Good choice, I love Billy Joel!
but I gotta through some more Jersey boys out there
one word; Rosalita
and six more for godd measure; You Give Love a Bad Name
You reallllly want to list beaches
here's some from Wikipedea (it's save me the time of checking spelling, I removed South Jersey Beaches)
People drive slower in the city where there's a stop light every 1/4 of a mile and more cars on the road than ants in an ant hill, than they do on country roads where there's a stop sign every 10+ miles (can't do a "hollywood stop" at a traffic light) and VERY few cars.
I don't think you have ever been to New York. New Yorkers drive extremely fast, taking every opportunity to advance forward. People drive slow only when they have to... You want to see city folks driving even faster? Visit Boston. These are the country folks, especially the infamous Jersey plates that create havoc by slowing down the flow in the city.
Yes, Long Island has more beaches than northern New Jersey and one of them was even name to the top three US beaches by National Geographic.
No, there's 320 IMAX theaters in the world.
Again, another false assumption. (there's an IMAX right in Rockland county, NY)
Ha, ha. You are not really good in sensing sarcasm, are you?
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If you are referring to Long Island's Philharmonic, than I don't see how better it is than NJPAC because NJ's orchestra are a Grammy award winning orchestra while "The Long Island Philharmonic suffers from its proximity to the cultural attractions of New York City.[10] The geography of Long Island itself also poses a problem for the orchestra[11]. Because of the distances between East End suburbs and western exurb neighborhoods"
Then again, NJ state philharmonic represent the entire state (wow, one philharmonic for entire state) but Long Island philharmonic represents just the region of Long Island, a total of two counties... That's something the region ma be proud of.
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Give me proof that Long Island has more galleries than the state of NJ. Your consistent prior false assumptions makes me hard to believe this is true.
I gave you listing of art galleries around Hamptons, just a part of LI. Find listings for the entire New Jersey and you will see the difference...
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Once this arts and culture topic hangs over, what about jobs? New Jersey has more jobs than Long Island has to offer (and I'm excluding NYC). I don't know, but IMO, arts and culture can only go so far for me to determine what makes a place "better". The point is that NNJ has art and culture, does it really matter about the quantity of it? All I know is that many of NJ's museums and performing art centers are recognized as top-notch.
By whom? Other Jerseyans?
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How do you think Long Island resident mentality is viewed? Sheesh.
All I can tell you is that LI does not get half the bad rap in the city that NJ gets every day. After all the state is commonly known as New Joisey.
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Oh and BTW, I wasn't being sarcastic when I was giving Long Island a pat on the back. Not everyone is a hater you know.
I am not a hater, I simply state what is known to most of people in the tri-state area: there is almost nothing exciting about New Jersey as most of it is just a big boring suburb... There are not that many state in the union that don't have a single large sized city they can be proud of.
Ha, ha. You are not really good in sensing sarcasm, are you?
Then again, NJ state philharmonic represent the entire state (wow, one philharmonic for entire state) but Long Island philharmonic represents just the region of Long Island, a total of two counties... That's something the region ma be proud of.
I gave you listing of art galleries around Hamptons, just a part of LI. Find listings for the entire New Jersey and you will see the difference...
By whom? Other Jerseyans?
All I can tell you is that LI does not get half the bad rap in the city that NJ gets every day. After all the state is commonly known as New Joisey.
I am not a hater, I simply state what is known to most of people in the tri-state area: there is almost nothing exciting about New Jersey as most of it is just a big boring suburb... There are not that many state in the union that don't have a single large sized city they can be proud of.
Sarcasm is a spice of reality... not so much over the internet. I don't know if you noticed, but sarcasm is harder to detect over the internet.
So?? NJPAC is located in Northern NJ, and it's better and more successful than the philharmonic on LI, end of story. Remember, It's NNJ Vs. LI
I don't know if this is all of them, but the difference from what you posted and what I posted shows that NJ offers more.
While NYC hates and complains about NJ, NJ only benefits.. so who cares!
And yes indeed you're a hater. I for one don't deny valid points or try to bring down LI for NJ's sake. You on the other hand feel the need to bash NNJ to boost LI's ratings. I find this common for a lot of NYers... maybe it's the ego
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