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Old 02-11-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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I was wondering - in terms of "Old money", lifestyle, architecture, and general upper class attitudes?

IMO:

Richmond, Virginia
Savannah, Georgia
Charleston, South Carolina
New Orleans , Louisiana
Montgomery, Alabama
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:57 PM
 
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i think Boston. I just think "High class" when I think of Boston.
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Old 02-11-2009, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NYC
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i think Boston. I just think "High class" when I think of Boston.
Yes, I think so too--that's not without reason either. Mid-Atlantic English is based on the upper crust Boston/New England accent in the early part of the 20th century. Mid-Atlantic English is actually the kind of speech that was typically (and to some extent still) used in films and radio shows. It represents an ideal amount of clarity and sophistication.
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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How peculiar...the person who started the thread is from Richmond, and puts that city #1 on his list.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:14 PM
 
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your list is laughable..they are all southern states and towns too..

montgomery, alabama..lmao

ooh yeah, uber sophisticated aristocratic people there. just because someone has a stick up their butt and believe they are all that, doesn't make them so. you are obviously confused with putting on southern airs and their banshee-like animal resolve with real substance. lol

interesting that most all the major areas of intelligentsia are up NORTH!!!

southerners do not fit the label 'aristocrats' in the true sense of the word. they may think they are with their money and the country club thingy but that hardly makes them sophisticated at all.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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your list is laughable..they are all southern states and towns too..

montgomery, alabama..lmao

ooh yeah, uber sophisticated aristocratic people there. just because someone has a stick up their butt and believe they are all that, doesn't make them so. you are obviously confused with putting on southern airs and their banshee-like animal resolve with real substance. lol

interesting that most all the major areas of intelligentsia are up NORTH!!!

southerners do not fit the label 'aristocrats' in the true sense of the word. they may think they are with their money and the country club thingy but that hardly makes them sophisticated at all.
I cant think of anything Aristocatic about "PAK YA CAWWWW" Boston. Sorry, it just doesn't fit the bill.

Richmond, Charleston, Savannah- yes !



Im not talking about "intelligensia". Im talking about that genteel, refinement, and beautiful way of life.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:32 PM
 
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i find the words your choice of words "refinement" quite telling of southerners and the way they think and interpret-twisted and just, well, WAY WAY WAY WAY off. that's what i was speaking of before, southerners are not refined, in any true sense of the word. they do not "possess" it. lol

what beautiful way of life? upstate new england is more beautiful than any southern town ever. southerners were notorious for slavery and that degenerate streak whether cultural or genetic still exists. it's far from beautiful, more like warm vomit.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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i find the words your choice of words "refinement" quite telling of southerners and the way they think and interpret-twisted and just, well, WAY WAY WAY WAY off.

what beautiful way of life? upstate new england is more beautiful than any southern town ever. southerners were notorious for slavery and that degenerate streak whether cultural or genetic still exists. it's far from beautiful, more like warm vomit.
Southerners are not refined? What a blanket statement. Do you think Yeomen New England farmers are refined? Or Upstate New York Yokels?

I agree. New England is very beautiful. But you can't compare the two because its apples and organges. Please don't bring slavery into this. Im not trying to start a North vs South debate. You were the one who started bringing that one up

Those are cities that I have been to where get an Aristocratic feel. Im takling about cities, not rural New England.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:36 PM
 
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I don't know enough about Montgomery to have an opinion on whether it fits. New Orleans seems as if its great aristocratic image is associated more with the past. The others seem like good choices, meaning those suggested in the original post and Boston as well . . . except that these are really nothing more than widely held images of those cities, which really amount to stereotypes. In reality, every city has its upper crust, and plenty of ordinary folks as well.

That said, here are a few more that come to mind if we're talking about cities with the reputation of having upper classes that have given them a certain aristocratic je ne sais quo:

Atlanta: Sort of. The aristocratic picture may be more associated with the past. More recently Atlanta's upper crust has made their city the major economic hub it is today.

Dallas: Traditionally they've had those Southern debutantes, and the cowboy oil barons personify a kind of laid back approach to being wealthy that is truly aristocracy with an American flair.

Louisville: Run for the Roses, riverboats, mint juleps, Belles of the Ball, 'nuff said.

Newport: More a large town than a city, and its true time of aristocracy is very much in the past (now it's strictly a tourist town), but included here just to throw in another northern city.

And, one out of left field that may be forgotten . . . Tulsa: I've never been there, but understand that Tulsa to this day still has an impressive cultural scene, all the more for a city its size, thanks to the efforts of the old oil barons from back east who made a serious effort to establish some of that back-east city culture in a place which back in the early 20th century most likely would otherwise have been pretty much a rough-edged frontier town.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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I don't know enough about Montgomery to have an opinion on whether it fits. New Orleans seems as if its great aristocratic image is associated more with the past. The others seem like good choices, meaning those suggested in the original post and Boston as well . . . except that these are really nothing more than widely held images of those cities, which really amount to stereotypes. In reality, every city has its upper crust, and plenty of ordinary folks as well.

That said, here are a few more that come to mind if we're talking about cities with the reputation of having upper classes that have given them a certain aristocratic je ne sais quo:

Atlanta: Sort of. The aristocratic picture may be more associated with the past. More recently Atlanta's upper crust has made their city the major economic hub it is today.

Dallas: Traditionally they've had those Southern debutantes, and the cowboy oil barons personify a kind of laid back approach to being wealthy that is truly aristocracy with an American flair.

Louisville: Run for the Roses, riverboats, mint juleps, Belles of the Ball, 'nuff said.

Newport: More a large town than a city, and its true time of aristocracy is very much in the past (now it's strictly a tourist town), but included here just to throw in another northern city.

And, one out of left field that may be forgotten . . . Tulsa: I've never been there, but understand that Tulsa to this day still has an impressive cultural scene, all the more for a city its size, thanks to the efforts of the old oil barons from back east who made a serious effort to establish some of that back-east city culture in a place which back in the early 20th century most likely would otherwise have been pretty much a rough-edged frontier town.
I have to disagree totally about Dallas or Atlanta. Those are new cities. Louisville just barely. I dont know anything about Newport. Insteresting descriptions though.
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