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Old 03-02-2009, 09:56 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Going on from my thread on cities...I shall attempt to rank all 50 states from an informed outsiders POV...feel free to make your own list!

I've decided to split them into regions, because it's hard to separate a lot of states.

WEST:

1. California
2. Hawaii
3. Alaska
4. Arizona = Colorado
5. Nevada = Oregon = Washington
6. Utah
7. Montana = New Mexico
8. Idaho = Wyoming

MIDWEST:

1. Illinois
2. Kansas = Oklahoma
3. Michigan
4. Ohio = Missouri
5. Minnesota
6. Indiana
7. North Dakota = South Dakota
8. Iowa = Wisconsin
9. Nebraska

SOUTH:

1. Florida = Texas
2. Tennessee = Kentucky
3. Virginia
4. Georgia
5. Louisiana = Mississippi
6. Alabama = West Virginia
7. North Carolina
8. South Carolina
9. Arkansas
10. Delaware

NORTHEAST:

1. Pennsylvania
2. Massachusetts
3. New Jersey
4. New York State*
5. Maine = Connecticut
6. New Hampshire = Maryland
7. Vermont
8. Rhode Island

D.C. of course is known by most

* While NYC city is very well known, not sure how many know of NY State

Discuss, argue, contend, ask why i ranked them so, make up your own list...

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Old 03-02-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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Do you have Illinois ranked number one in the Midwest because of Chicago? I'm curious because you said many foreigners know of NYC but not so much NY state. If you ranked IL first because of Chicago, is there a reason that the rest of IL is better known than the rest of NY outside NYC?

Staying with the Midwest, how well known is The Wizard of Oz in Australia (or in any other countries you might know about)? I wonder whether this is why you have Kansas ranked second in the region. I would think that The Wizard might make KS the best known Midwestern state in a lot of countries.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:23 PM
 
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Do you have Illinois ranked number one in the Midwest because of Chicago? I'm curious because you said many foreigners know of NYC but not so much NY state. If you ranked IL first because of Chicago, is there a reason that the rest of IL is better known than the rest of NY outside NYC?

Staying with the Midwest, how well known is The Wizard of Oz in Australia (or in any other countries you might know about)? I wonder whether this is why you have Kansas ranked second in the region. I would think that The Wizard might make KS the best known Midwestern state in a lot of countries.
That is precisely the reason, same with Oklahoma the musical and the Oklahoma city bombing.

I suppose people do know Illinois because of Chicago...you think of Chicago, Illinois, while it's less common to say "New York, New York." New York is so big it seems to not belong to any state.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:09 PM
 
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Big 4: California, Texas, Hawaii, Florida.

Most foreigners don't realize NY is a state too.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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sounds about right ... i would put ohio higher though
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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This has been done before. I have to agree with Hawaii being 3rd-its world famous and very distinct.

How The World sees The States, 2006 Anholt State Brand Index
How the world sees The States
The most famous states of the Union
are virtually nation brands in their own
right. Florida, California, Texas, Alaska,
Arizona and Hawaii, for example, are
names that are almost as familiar to
people around the world as America
itself. However, this fact is hardly
surprising because their names and
images have been promoted, sometimes
deliberately and sometimes by chance,
for as long as America’s, and have
captured the imaginations of people
around the world for decades and even
centuries.

From its earliest days, as America
grew in territory and population, its subbrands
began to develop. Just as Procter
and Gamble have Pringles, Head &
Shoulders and Crest, America had
California, Texas, Arizona, Virginia,
Colorado and many more, each one
showcased around the world in movies,
historical events, TV shows, products
and personalities. Like all good brands,
these states were more than just names:
they soon became shorthand for the
ideas and values and ways of life they
represented. Such evocative images as
gold prospectors, the Alamo, and
cowboys and Indians stand out in the
imaginations of millions around the
world, and have become so intrinsic to
the idea of America that it is impossible
to imagine it without them. This is
equally true for Americans as it is for
foreigners. The American sense of
identity has always been inspired and
informed by ideas of a “pioneering
spirit”, “Yankee ingenuity” and “frontier
justice”, and such ideas are far more
strongly linked to some states than others.


However, the overall ranking – the total
marks of each state on all six points of
the hexagon – shows that there is a big
gap between the megabrands of
California, Florida and the rest. Hawaii
and New York are in the second league
of brand power, and then there is
another sizeable gap between them and
the remaining 46 States. 45 of these are
clustered relatively closely in terms of
their brand strength, but there is another
big gap between the 49th brand,
Alabama, and the 50th, New Jersey.
For various reasons, NJ’s brand is
right out on a limb at the tail-end of
the index.

Overseas, the images are more likely to
be generic, and may have been mainly
formed by books, films or historical
events that can date back decades or
even centuries. Each country will also
tend to have its own unique views of
certain states, depending on that
country’s historical connections with
the state in question – hence the higher
awareness and ranking of the New
England states by British respondents,
the above-average scores amongst
German panelists for states with large
German populations like Oregon, and
the awareness of Louisiana amongst
French panelists. Mexican panelists rank
New Mexico, Illinois and Utah well
above the global average; the Canadian
panel – unsurprisingly – ranks Michigan,
Maine and Vermont above average
(further confirming the finding from the
Nation Brands Index that personal familiarity
with a place will almost always
increase its brand value); the Chinese
rank Alaska and Missouri above average,
and the Japanese give high rankings
to Kentucky, Alaska and Minnesota.

California is almost certainly the state
the world hears about most often, and
the one with the most distinctive and
powerful identity and culture. Certainly,
it’s the only one with a governor who’s
almost as world-famous as the president,
and has always had global ambitions
coupled with a remarkable gift for selfpromotion.

State Rank
California 1
Florida 2
Hawaii 3
New York 4
Washington 5
North Carolina 6
Virginia 7
Kentucky 8
Colorado 9
Texas 10
Oregon 11
New Mexico 12
Tennessee 13
Vermont 14
Missouri 15
Alaska 16
South Carolina 17
Montana 18
Nevada 19
Ohio 20
Maine 21
Arizona 22
Maryland 23
Utah 24
Wyoming 25
Connecticut 26
West Virginia 27
Oklahoma 28
Massachusetts 29
New Hampshire 30
Idaho 31
Pennsylvania 32
Georgia 33
Minnesota 34
Rhode Island 35
Kansas 36
Wisconsin 37
Iowa 38
South Dakota 39
Illinois 40
Louisiana 41
Indiana 42
Nebraska 43
Mississippi 44
North Dakota 45
Arkansas 46
Delaware 47
Michigan 48
Alabama 49
New Jersey 50

http://www.statebrandsindex.com/docs/SBI_2006.pdf (broken link)
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:55 AM
 
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Big 4: California, Texas, Hawaii, Florida.

Most foreigners don't realize NY is a state too.

Yup thats about right

second tier would be illinois,new york, etc
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: ITP
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Big 4: California, Texas, Hawaii, Florida.

Most foreigners don't realize NY is a state too.
Simple and straightforward. I totally agree.
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Boston
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if plenty of American's don't even know Rhode Island is a state (most of the time its confused w/ Long Island) how are foreigners suppose to know lol
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:32 PM
 
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^ The list seems to be more about the positivity of perception of states rather than well-known-ness. New Jersey is one of the most well known states, but it has a negative perception. Alabama, Miss. etc are certainly better known than Nebraska or Iowa.
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