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Old 09-30-2009, 12:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ainulinale View Post
I used the first poll that came up in search results.



How old are you again? Did it never occur to you that not all 7 million people missing from the NYC CSA in your chart are from wealthy people from CT? Let's see, Bridgeport metro makes up 900,000 (compare that to San Jose's 1.8 million--that 4% of NYC metro vs. 24% of SF metro). Did it never occur to you that SF CSA may very well pass NYC by adding San Jose? Yet, you have not shown any facts to suggest that NYC remains on top....none. You simply assume that it does.

is something wrong with your eyes? the number of millioniares in san jose listed on that chart!

read this s-l-o-w-l-y

Hartford, Conn: 27,587 millionaire households

Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, Conn: 26,176 millionaire households

Norwich-New London, Conn: 5,704 millionaire households

New York City MSA: 561,800 millionaire households

New York City CSA: 621,330 Millionaire households

San Francisco: 120,800 millionaire households

San Jose: 69,500 millionaire households

Bay Area CSA: 190,200 Millionaire households


Do you not know how to add?

 
Old 09-30-2009, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I'll send you another resource that says the Bay Area has more millionaires per capita than NYC metro.

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Old 09-30-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Originally Posted by jaredm6 View Post
is something wrong with your eyes? the number of millioniares in san jose listed on that chart!

read this s-l-o-w-l-y

Hartford, Conn: 27,587 millionaire households

Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, Conn: 26,176 millionaire households

Norwich-New London, Conn: 5,704 millionaire households

New York City MSA: 561,800 millionaire households

New York City CSA: 621,330 Millionaire households

San Francisco: 120,800 millionaire households

San Jose: 69,500 millionaire households

Bay Area CSA: 190,200 Millionaire households


Do you not know how to add?
I'm really amazed. You have no idea what you're talking about. This is troll-like. You apparently don't know what CSA or MSA is, or have any idea what I've been talking about for the past ten posts.

CSA = Combined Statistical Area

Combined statistical area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MSA = Metropolitan Statistical Area

United States metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Check out how the U.S. government defines metro.
 
Old 09-30-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Originally Posted by jaredm6 View Post
is something wrong with your eyes? the number of millioniares in san jose listed on that chart!

read this s-l-o-w-l-y

Hartford, Conn: 27,587 millionaire households

Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, Conn: 26,176 millionaire households

Norwich-New London, Conn: 5,704 millionaire households

New York City MSA: 561,800 millionaire households

New York City CSA: 621,330 Millionaire households

San Francisco: 120,800 millionaire households

San Jose: 69,500 millionaire households

Bay Area CSA: 190,200 Millionaire households


Do you not know how to add?
You apparently don't know how to add, since there is not 4.8 million people in the Bay Area, there is more like 7.4 million. So your numbers are still wrong.
 
Old 09-30-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I lived in thee Outer Richmond area of San Francisco. Most of the people there were elderly Chinese or Russians who bought in the 60s or 70s for around $30K. Those houses are selling well over $1 million each. So these people may be cash poor and shopping at Goodwill but their net worth is well over $1 million.
 
Old 09-30-2009, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I lived in thee Outer Richmond area of San Francisco. Most of the people there were elderly Chinese or Russians who bought in the 60s or 70s for around $30K. Those houses are selling well over $1 million each. So these people may be cash poor and shopping at Goodwill but their net worth is well over $1 million.
Interesting Point.

Owner-Occupied Housing Units Valued at $1 Million+, 2008
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA 334,861...7.5% of all owner-occupied housing units.
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 291,155...18.8% of all owner-occupied housing units
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA 288,803...9.3% of all owner-occupied housing units

Owner-Occupied Housing Units Valued at $500,000+, 2008
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA 1,733,122...39.4% of all owner-occupied housing units.
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA 1,450,972...46.8% of all owner-occupied housing units
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 1,070,330...69.2% of all owner-occupied housing units
 
Old 09-30-2009, 02:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ainulinale View Post
I'm really amazed. You have no idea what you're talking about. This is troll-like. You apparently don't know what CSA or MSA is, or have any idea what I've been talking about for the past ten posts.

CSA = Combined Statistical Area

Combined statistical area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MSA = Metropolitan Statistical Area

United States metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Check out how the U.S. government defines metro.
Exactly! There are six components to SF's CSA( File:San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), yet that guy keeps referring to that fabricated/fictional/made-up table like it's gospel.

haha-LOL! The sheer stupidity of some.

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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Interesting Point.

Owner-Occupied Housing Units Valued at $1 Million+, 2008
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA 334,861...7.5% of all owner-occupied housing units.
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 291,155...18.8% of all owner-occupied housing units
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA 288,803...9.3% of all owner-occupied housing units

Owner-Occupied Housing Units Valued at $500,000+, 2008
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA 1,733,122...39.4% of all owner-occupied housing units.
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA 1,450,972...46.8% of all owner-occupied housing units
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 1,070,330...69.2% of all owner-occupied housing units
Killer!
 
Old 09-30-2009, 02:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Rhymes with Best Coast View Post
Exactly! There are six components to SF's CSA( File:San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), yet that guy keeps referring to that fabricated/fictional/made-up table like it's gospel.

haha-LOL! The sheer stupidity of some.


Killer!
lol, yes it's killer that new york has more millionaires and billionaires (in sheer numbers and percentages) than sf isn't it?
 
Old 09-30-2009, 02:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Rhymes with Best Coast View Post
Exactly! There are six components to SF's CSA( File:San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), yet that guy keeps referring to that fabricated/fictional/made-up table like it's gospel.

haha-LOL! The sheer stupidity of some.


Killer!

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Originally Posted by ainulinale View Post
How old are you again? Did it never occur to you that not all 7 million people missing from the NYC CSA in your chart are from wealthy people from CT? Let's see, Bridgeport metro makes up 900,000 (compare that to San Jose's 1.8 million--that 4% of NYC metro vs. 24% of SF metro). Did it never occur to you that SF CSA may very well pass NYC by adding San Jose? Yet, you have not shown any facts to suggest that NYC remains on top....none. You simply assume that it does.
Since there are lots of inept readers here, I'll step in and help you guys out; the chart reads "ADULT POPULATION" . The population figures are accurate. There aren't 7M adults in the Bay Area and there aren't 19M adults in NYC's metro. Would it make sense for minors to be computed in this particular list? How many millionaire minors live in the United States?

I hate to repeat myself, but I'll do it again for the last time; New York is the wealthiest city when it comes to the rich. New York has by far the largest population of wealthy people- be it billionaires or millionaires. New York's metropolitan area also boasts the most millionaire households by percentage when it comes to major metropolitan areas. What New York isn't, however, is richest when it comes to the masses/middle classes.

And that silly, "percentage of homes valued > $1M " (RE: % of overvalued homes) is the reason why California lead the way when it came to driving his country into recession. The chart should read, "number of idiots who can't afford their homes 2008". I would love to see the revised, post-housing meltdown fugues for a laugh. For the love of God, look at comical ratio of homes valued at $1M in Los Angeles to how low the city ranks when it comes to millionaire households.

And you wonder why these areas are shedding millionaires at a much more accelerated pace than New York. We deserve this economic mess we're in, and I am enjoying every second of it.

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Old 09-30-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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You two are dopes, and I was waiting until jaredm6 (or his opponents) would revert to the chart where it clearly reads "adult population". Reading is your friend. Minors are very rarely millionaires, so they are logically excluded from the figures. The chart is accurate.

I hate to repeat myself, but I'll do it again for the last time; New York is the wealthiest city when it comes to the rich. New York has by far the largest population of wealthy people- be it billionaires or millionaires. New York's metropolitan area also boasts the most millionaire households by percentage when it comes to major metropolitan areas. What New York isn't, however, is richest when it comes to the masses/middle classes.

And that silly, "percentage of homes valued > $1M " (RE: % of overvalued homes) is the reason why California lead the way when it came to driving his country into recession. The chart should read, "number of idiots who can't afford their homes 2008". I would love to see the revised, post-housing meltdown fugues for a laugh. Look at comical ratio of homes valued at $1M in Los Angeles and look how low the city ranks when it comes to millionaire households.
This is way out of line. My only contention was that SF's CSA consists of 6 components, not two as stated by your friend.

Monclair's data points speak for themselves without the insults.

Your friend has been pushing this topic for some time now. I can tell by the writing style and pattern.
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Major complex going on with that guy. Seek help!!!
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