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Old 04-26-2009, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Personally I Think southern Hip hop Changed Rap today.I Liked the rap bak in the day,Now the south Has Turned it around.I Hate main street most of all the artist today you hear on the radio are from the South.I'll just stick to Underground rap,It's knowledge rap not the bs rap these days.J5,Immortal technique,Fort minor,Living legends,Jedi mind tricks, etc.Lupe fiasco is the only main street rapper I Like,But it's stupid how the radio only played Superstar,It's not the only good song on his album,In fact I Like Hip hop Saved my life,the coolest,Streets on fire,Paris,Put you on game better than Superstar.
I wouldn't say the South changed it. But sadly it does deserve some of the blame for today's rap music. But again, Diddy was the one that opened the doors to the mainstream. The rest just followed suit.
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:50 PM
 
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The difference is back then they actually had lyrical ability and the early 90s gangsta rappers were actually gangsta. Now a days I wouldnt be afraid of a mainstream rapper unlike in the early 90s you would be intimidated by a West coast guy like Ice Cube for example. I personally think hip hop died when the wave of good ny rappers died like B.I.G., Pun, Big L and oakland's 2 pac even though he was born in Brooklyn.
Understandable. But again, they had a message in their music back in the very early 90s. But it got out of hand when the gunplay and the drugs and them talking about women starting to appear more in their music. This started around 1993.

I listen to somebody like Elzhi and I wonder why people do not give him the time of day. Man I stay playing The Preface on my Ipod.
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:06 PM
 
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But I gotta say most of the stuff biggie talked about was made up too. I think the only guys who actually lived wat they talked about were nas, snoop dogg, big L, Big Pun, and MAYBE jayz. And thats a big MAYBE. I'm not saying people should glorify their rough past but they shouldn't act like something they're not either
Maybe in the mainstream, but there are a lot of West Coast artists who did live what they rap about. DJ Quik, MC Eiht, The Whoridas, Dresta & BG Knocc Out, Jayo Felony, Mac Dre, Dub C, Mack 10, Coolio, Tha Eastsidaz, X-Raided, C-Bo, Sicx, The Game (supposedly), Jay Rock, Big Syke, Messy Marv, Sen Dog, B-Real, Seagram, Young Lay, Mac D (Down-n-Dirty Hustlas) & Mac Minister all really lived what they rap about.
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Maybe in the mainstream, but there are a lot of West Coast artists who did live what they rap about. DJ Quik, MC Eiht, The Whoridas, Dresta & BG Knocc Out, Jayo Felony, Mac Dre, Dub C, Mack 10, Coolio, Tha Eastsidaz, X-Raided, C-Bo, Sicx, The Game (supposedly), Jay Rock, Big Syke, Messy Marv, Sen Dog, B-Real, Seagram, Young Lay, Mac D (Down-n-Dirty Hustlas) & Mac Minister all really lived what they rap about.
Salt Lake Rap is where it's at. Back in the day you had the original MC's like Cougar-X, DubNephi, DJ Mix-a-bunch, Caffeine Fiend Freddy, X-Lake-City, and then the new school with dudes like Manti Posse, Brigham MackDadday, Steve Young MC, The ProvoSidaz, SkiThuggin', Dr. Dru, Ice Patch, ScootWoolfie Woolf, Miszdemeanor, Salt-ridaz, Biggie Big Biggum and Macaroni Mackin (Fair-n-Hawnest Sellaz), Big Myke and they all really lived on the streets of Utah and lived what they rap about, YO.

Peace out!
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:50 PM
 
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I wouldn't say the South changed it. But sadly it does deserve some of the blame for today's rap music. But again, Diddy was the one that opened the doors to the mainstream. The rest just followed suit.
I blame Puff (I refuse to call him Diddy) for sissifying the mainstream and encouraging the type of garbage music that dominates the airwaves today. Signing under his label is the kiss of death for an artist. Think about how many short careers have gone through his hands. Don't expect to have anything more than 2 albums and have that brought to everyone's attention if you wanna go to Bad Boy. Look at how many careers ended after starting with Bad Boy: Craig Mack, Biggie (for separate reasons), 112, Lil' Kim, Mase, Loon, Little Cease & all of Harlem World & Junior Mafia, Black Rob, Shyne (for just being an idiot), Total, Da Band (lol), Dream, and now Danity Kane! Who from Bad Boy has had a career that didn't end abruptly? He's had a lot of talent pass through his label, but he's unbelievably bad at running it. And he's the most overrated producer I can think of.

Jermaine Dupri may be what Xzibit called him, a "cockeyed midget with a Napoleon Complex," but at least he has produced SOME talent that has lasted.
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:19 PM
 
Location: NC/IL/MI
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Maybe in the mainstream, but there are a lot of West Coast artists who did live what they rap about. DJ Quik, MC Eiht, The Whoridas, Dresta & BG Knocc Out, Jayo Felony, Mac Dre, Dub C, Mack 10, Coolio, Tha Eastsidaz, X-Raided, C-Bo, Sicx, The Game (supposedly), Jay Rock, Big Syke, Messy Marv, Sen Dog, B-Real, Seagram, Young Lay, Mac D (Down-n-Dirty Hustlas) & Mac Minister all really lived what they rap about.
ya I ment mainstream, mybad.
btw Jay rock is a beast! i heard him on a song with nipsey hussle and maino. He went in on thatt song
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:25 PM
 
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ya I ment mainstream, mybad.
btw Jay rock is a beast! i heard him on a song with nipsey hussle and maino. He went in on thatt song
Oh yeah?! I don't think I heard that. Do you know the name of the track?
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:27 PM
 
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I blame Puff (I refuse to call him Diddy) for sissifying the mainstream and encouraging the type of garbage music that dominates the airwaves today. Signing under his label is the kiss of death for an artist. Think about how many short careers have gone through his hands. Don't expect to have anything more than 2 albums and have that brought to everyone's attention if you wanna go to Bad Boy. Look at how many careers ended after starting with Bad Boy: Craig Mack, Biggie (for separate reasons), 112, Lil' Kim, Mase, Loon, Little Cease & all of Harlem World & Junior Mafia, Black Rob, Shyne (for just being an idiot), Total, Da Band (lol), Dream, and now Danity Kane! Who from Bad Boy has had a career that didn't end abruptly? He's had a lot of talent pass through his label, but he's unbelievably bad at running it. And he's the most overrated producer I can think of.
LOL, I don't get the short career thing either.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Total just vanished out of thin air. They came out with trippin in 1998 and Sittin home the very next year in early 1999 and haven't been heard from since.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:01 PM
 
Location: P.cola-FL
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Nice memories It was old school rap is the best like ((TUPAC)) real singers 4 real talk,&Biggie,Easy-E,All DeathRow records..
and some rappers still a live Ice cube,dj quick,nate dogg,mack10,dub c,keath sweat,aww Mariah carrey,
mix old & new..enjoy it & feel high!
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