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Old 04-17-2012, 02:22 AM
 
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Dallas - 6.5 million

Houston - 6.0 million

Philadelphia - 6.0 million

Washington D.C. - 5.7 million

Miami - 5.7 million

Atlanta - 5.4 million


Rank in terms of:

1. Downtown size
2. Metropolitan area size
3. Subjective feel of size of city from being in the downtown
4. Subjective feel of size of city from driving across the metro
5. Which has the worst traffic
6. Which has the most extensive freeway system

No other comparisons (like prominence, worldliness, skyline, attractiveness, public transport, entertainment, parks) just focus on these criteria.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:49 AM
 
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Downtown

1. Philadelphia
2. Washington DC
3. Houston
4. Miami
5. Atlanta
6. Dallas

I graded them based on a combination of height, area, population, building density, and ambiance. Philadelphia is the only one with all four qualities. Washington DC has the area, ambiance, population and building density, but no height whatsoever. Houston has the height, area and building density, but no population or ambiance. Miami has the area, population and building density, but lacks height compared to Philadelphia and Houston, and has spotty ambiance. Atlanta has the height, but lacks the population and ambiance, and its area is artificially inflated by extremely low building density. Dallas has height, and nothing else.


MSA

1. Atlanta
2. Washington DC
3. Houston
4. Dallas/Fort Worth
5. Miami
6. Philadelphia

Atlanta spreads out along the Piedmont like kudzu. Washington DC does too, but it hides its development a little bit better. Houston sprawls to the north and south, but dies pretty quickly to the east and west. Dallas/Fort Worth doesn't seem very centered in its highway layout, with most of its development seemingly north of I-30. Miami spreads out far along the Atlantic coast of south Florida, but dies instantly 10 miles inland. Philadelphia hides its MSA the best, with lots of green belts, a thick tree layer, and only peeks of development along the highways.


Traffic

1. Philadelphia
2. Miami
3. Houston
4. Dallas/Fort Worth
5. Atlanta
6. Washington DC

Philadelphia seems to have the least traffic, and Miami's traffic has never been bad when I've been there. Houston's traffic wasn't as bad as its reputation suggests. Traffic in Dallas/Fort Worth was worse. Atlanta and Washington DC have the worst traffic.


Highways

1. Houston
2. Atlanta
3. Dallas/Fort Worth
4. Miami
5. Philadelphia
6. Washington DC

Houston's highways are modern marvels of civil engineering. Atlanta's highways are very wide, but not as extensive as Houston's. Most of the highways in Dallas/Fort Worth seem to be south of the center of population. Miami has a tangle of north/south highways with a few east/west connectors. Philadelphia only has a few highways, and the one with the highest traffic volume is obsolete. Washington DC doesn't have much aside from its beltway.

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Old 04-17-2012, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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1. Downtown size
DC
Philly
Houston
Miami
Atlanta (would be higher if including midtown)
Dallas

2. Metropolitan area size
Dallas
Atlanta
Houston
DC
Miami
Philly

3. Subjective feel of size of city from being in the downtown
Philly
DC
Miami
Dallas
Atlanta
Houston

4. Subjective feel of size of city from driving across the metro
Houston
Dallas (would be first if including fort worth)
Atlanta
DC
Miami
Philly

5. Which has the worst traffic
DC
Philly
Atlanta
Houston
Miami
Dallas

6. Which has the most extensive freeway system
Houston
Atlanta
Dallas
DC
Miami
Philly

other comparisons (like prominence, worldliness, skyline, attractiveness, public transport, entertainment, parks) just focus on these criteria.

DC takes all of these IMO, then Philly. The rest are about the same. But I prefer them in this order: Miami, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:45 AM
 
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For the record, I've only spent time (two nights) in D.C., it felt more vibrant as a city than I was expecting. I was actually pleasantly surprised, it's a pretty hip town. We drove through the Houston but didn't go downtown, didn't really get an impression but did see the spaghetti-like freeway system. Skirted the Philly metro area, and have not seen Atlanta, Miami or Dallas-Forth Worth.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:26 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Originally Posted by Gnutella View Post

Highways


3. Dallas/Fort Worth


Most of the highways in Dallas/Fort Worth seem to be south of the center of population.
Not really.

But there are some innovative systems coming in the near future for DFW and they're mostly in the northern part of the area.


Dallas Ft. Worth and Texas Road Building Innovations - YouTube


DFW Connector - eastbound - YouTube


North Tarrant Express - East Segment - YouTube

North Tarrant Express - West Segment - YouTube


I-35W Design Visualization - YouTube


Dallas, TX I-35 Toll /I-635 / I-635 Toll Animation Eastbound - YouTube

Chisholm Trail Parkway (ftp://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot-info/ftw/sh121/sh121sp_map.pdf - broken link)

SH180

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Old 04-17-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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The D! No competition.

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Old 04-17-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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Atlanta feels the smallest in every way. Philly feels like the biggest city and Dallas feels like the biggest metro with Houston next. D.C. is middle pack in every way and Miami feels the most urban as an area

With all things considered equally, I have to go with Dallas
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:11 PM
JJG
 
Location: Fort Worth
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The D! No competition.

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Old 04-17-2012, 10:14 PM
 
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downtown
Philly
DC
Atlanta
Miami
Houston
Dallas

metro
Philly
DC
Miami
Dallas
Houston
Atlanta

Philly feels the largest by practically every measure. The only cities/metros that feel larger are NYC, Chi, SF, and LA. Philly only has a few major highways, and they are inferior to those in the Sunbelt, there is just no room for them, its just not a highway city like that, but driving around the surface streets, its no contest.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:24 PM
 
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Rank in terms of:

1. Downtown size
A Philly
B DC
C HOuston
D Miami
E Atlanta
F Dallas


2. Metropolitan area size

A Houston
B DFW
C DC
D Miami
E Atlanta
F Philly

3. Subjective feel of size of city from being in the downtown


See number 1.


4. Subjective feel of size of city from driving across the metro
A Houston
B DFW
C DC
D Miami
E Atlanta
F Philly

5. Which has the worst traffic
A DC
B Philly
C Miami
D Houston
E Atlanta
F Dallas

6. Which has the most extensive freeway system
A Houston
B DFW
C Atlanta
D Miami
E DC
F Philly
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