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Old 01-14-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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St. Louis is definitely multi-nodal. Downtown, Midtown/Grand Center, Central West End, Clayton. The region is very defused, probably at the detriment of downtown. No doubt, Downtown would be much larger without these other downtown like districts. Also, I think it prevents St. Louis from having taller buildings downtown because you basically just have a swath of mid-rise buildings stretching for like 8 miles. St. Louis metro area would have to add another million or so people to really start filling in good.





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Old 01-14-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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I need a "has everything" core, even if other cores exist.

The greater Downtown Seattle area dominates certain industries locally including the big construction/architecture firms (my world), so I can live there and even if I switched jobs the new one would be walkable in 5-30 minutes. Just about any kind of shopping is walkable. A train to the airport is walkable. Hospitals too. Several supermarkets, the Pike Place Market, dozens of smaller grocery stores, and hundreds of restauarants and bars provide a lot of options. I love being around tourists. It's no urban heaven yet but every year gets it noticeably closer.

Meanwhile a lot of satellite districts are also pretty good. The University District, Downtown Bellevue, and Downtown Tacoma are three very oppostive types of secondary downtowns. Kirkland, Everett, Ballard, West Seattle, Redmond, and 20-30 other places have good third and fourth tier downtowns, some with recent 1000-unit+ increases in residential supply.
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Old 01-14-2018, 02:03 PM
 
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I’m not sure that I understand what the OP means by centralized. I assumed he meant cities where the CBD is the only real destination for arts, culture, shopping and nightlife, but neither Boston nor Chicago is a good example of that. There any number of cities that are nearly 100% residential (with a smattering of big-box it strip malls) outside of downtown, but Boston and Chicago certainly aren’t among them.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I’m not sure that I understand what the OP means by centralized. I assumed he meant cities where the CBD is the only real destination for arts, culture, shopping and nightlife, but neither Boston nor Chicago is a good example of that. There any number of cities that are nearly 100% residential (with a smattering of big-box it strip malls) outside of downtown, but Boston and Chicago certainly aren’t among them.
I think only mid sized cities can truly be completely centralized, Sacramento is probably the biggest example.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:27 PM
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Location: Miami
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I’m not sure that I understand what the OP means by centralized. I assumed he meant cities where the CBD is the only real destination for arts, culture, shopping and nightlife, but neither Boston nor Chicago is a good example of that. There any number of cities that are nearly 100% residential (with a smattering of big-box it strip malls) outside of downtown, but Boston and Chicago certainly aren’t among them.
It’s like comparing Charlotte to Miami (Brickell, South Beach, Wynwood etc.), Pittsburgh to Indianapolis, or Raleigh to Birmingham (Five Points, Lakeview, Avondale, etc.)
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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It’s like comparing Charlotte to Miami (Brickell, South Beach, Wynwood etc.), Pittsburgh to Indianapolis, or Raleigh to Birmingham (Five Points, Lakeview, Avondale, etc.)
?? Not familiar with Charlotte, Indy, Raleigh or Birmingham so this confused me more.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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I think only mid sized cities can truly be completely centralized, Sacramento is probably the biggest example.
Even in that regard, I think mid sized or even small(er) “legacy” cities have multiple nodes as well.
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Old 01-16-2018, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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It’s like comparing Charlotte to Miami (Brickell, South Beach, Wynwood etc.), Pittsburgh to Indianapolis, or Raleigh to Birmingham (Five Points, Lakeview, Avondale, etc.)
Are you using Pittsburgh as an example of a centralized city? Because it really isn't, except if you want to consider office jobs. Most of the major tourist destinations and walkable business districts are outside of the confines of Downtown. I have limited experience with Indy, but it's way more decentralized in terms of its urban nodes.
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