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Old 07-02-2009, 09:51 PM
 
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Let's face it, there is a huge North-South divide in this country from east to west. No cities in the south can actually pretend to be real cities.

LA is the one city that really tries, or at least wants to feel, like it is a true city. And in many ways it outdoes Miami, Atlanta, and Houston in terms of being an actual city. But is isn't...NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, Philly, etc--these are real cities. Cities in the South of this country (and I don't mean 'the south' as a region, I mean literally the southern half) just arent' quite there yet...

Cities like NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, Boston, Philly--even Portland--, actually feel like realy cities.

Everyone always divides it by East/West...but the real division is North/South across the country. In the north you get real cities, in the South you get sprawl.

From San Francisco across to Annapolis is about the true dividing line...
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Let's face it, there is a huge North-South divide in this country from east to west. No cities in the south can actually pretend to be real cities.

LA is the one city that really tries, or at least want to feel, like it is a true city. And in many ways it outdoes Miami, Atlanta, and Houston in terms of being an actual city. But is isn't...NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, Philly, etc--these are real cities. Cities in the South of this country (and I don't mean 'the south' as a region, I mean literally the southern half) just arent' quite there yet...

Cities like NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, --even Portland--, actually feel like realy cities.

Everyone always divides it by East/West...but the real division is North/South across the country. In the north you get real cities, in the South you get sprawl.

South of San Francisco is sort of the dividing line...
I agree. I would say North hands down.
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:11 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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New Orleans is hardly sprawling and feels fairly urban.

And yes the North has DENSER cities overall, I believe that point has been discussed ad nasuem. Was there really a point in starting another "lets bash the south" thread? You must not spend much time on this forum to realize that this topic has been discussed over and over and over, just give it a rest already.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Spain
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"Real cities"??? No, the real division in the U.S. is between the east and west.
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:26 AM
 
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Well, if you wanna go that route, we could actually say that America as a whole has very few real cities compared to Europe.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:27 AM
 
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Let's face it, there is a huge North-South divide in this country from east to west. No cities in the south can actually pretend to be real cities.

LA is the one city that really tries, or at least wants to feel, like it is a true city. And in many ways it outdoes Miami, Atlanta, and Houston in terms of being an actual city. But is isn't...NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, Philly, etc--these are real cities. Cities in the South of this country (and I don't mean 'the south' as a region, I mean literally the southern half) just arent' quite there yet...

Cities like NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, Boston, Philly--even Portland--, actually feel like realy cities.

Everyone always divides it by East/West...but the real division is North/South across the country. In the north you get real cities, in the South you get sprawl.

From San Francisco across to Annapolis is about the true dividing line...

And i guess this is based on your opinion please find me some facts were only northeastern citys are real citys and chicago and SF please!!!!
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:29 AM
 
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Well, if you wanna go that route, we could actually say that America as a whole has very few real cities compared to Europe.

Hello and Japan has more real cities than american cities lets start that topic
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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The Real City argument is very played. The Southern cities grew differently than the Northern cities so it's best not to compare them.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Hello and Japan has more real cities than american cities lets start that topic
Europe does have a larger number of large cities than the US but I don't believe Japan does.

As far as I know, Tokyo, Yokohama, Osaka, (and maybe Nagoya) are the only "REAL CITIES" in Japan...especially if you also consider metro areas.. Aside from that, just a bunch of small cities.
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The differences between Japan and the US are largely geographical. The greater US sprawl resulted in a lesser need for it to put undue focus on any individual US city, allowing its various industries to be spread more uniformly across the country, compared to the more Tokyo-centric Japan.

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Old 07-03-2009, 10:33 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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What is a "real" city as opposed to a "fake" city?
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