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View Poll Results: I would rather live in the...
Rust Belt 181 45.14%
Sun Belt 220 54.86%
Voters: 401. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-06-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Sun Belt.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:21 AM
 
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You're speaking to a person who was born and raised in Michigan, and spent my college years in Pennsylvania...not someone who is going to defend ante-bellum Southern ways of life. Not that much of the North was ever a paradise for certain groups of people, but I won't go there...

However, I do point out hypocrisy when I find it. Having grown up in a dirty industrial city of the North, I find it beyond asinine and hypocritical for hoity-toity liberal elitists to criticize Sun Belt cities for so-called "unsustainable" practices, when the cities in which the elitists live built their wealth in some of the most environmentally unsustainable ways imaginable. It's a part of the mentality that drove me out of that region long ago.
Here's the most recent list of "City Sustainability Rankings." Some "rust belt" cities are certainly holding their own. http://www.sustainlane.com/us-city-r...erall-rankings
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:35 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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The poll results are kind of surprising to me, but I have to say that after living in both areas. Rustbelt for sure. The Sunbelt just wasn't for me, winter just didn't feel like winter "should" with no snow and warmer temps, and the Summers were just way to hot for my taste. I like the cold and snow in the winters and I enjoy all Summer being comfortable in the upper 70's low 80's without the triple digit heat. Colorful Falls, and nice Springs just add to the appeal for me and my family.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:32 AM
 
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I like rust belt better. There are more cities in the rust belt that offer city specific foods, interesting architecture, more of an urban environment than there are sunbelt cities.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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No, hell is supposedly sweltering hot. I never heard of hell being cold with winter jackets...lol.
Then I suppose you've never read Dante's Inferno? The ninth level of Hell makes Green Bay in the winter look like, well... the Sun Belt.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Are you serious?

11 of the last 16 NBA Champions have been teams from Sunbelt cities...and 7 of the last 16 teams that lost in the NBA finals have been teams from Sunbelt cities...

Pittsburgh and maybe Buffalo are the only Rustbelt NFL teams that can even hold a candle to the dynasties from Miami, Dallas, San Francisco, and D.C.
Are you serious? I agree about Pittsburgh, but c'mon the Buffalo Bills totally suck. You also seem to be completely forgetting about the Green Bay Packers?

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Which Rustbelt cities have had successful MLB teams? Cincinatti, Philadelphia, and Cleveland (somewhat)...but certainly no better than L.A., Atlanta, and Phoenix.
Huh? Both the Detroit Tigers and the Milwaukee Brewers are among the top 10 teams in baseball.

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Old 07-06-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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The poll results are kind of surprising to me...
Me as well. Not scientific, and apparently, doesn't reflect an accurate sample of America:

For Nearly Half of America, Grass Is Greener Somewhere Else - Pew Research Center

A few things from that (scientific) poll:
  • Top 5 cities where people want to live are Denver, San Diego, Seattle, Orlando, and Tampa
  • Bottom 5 cities - Minneapolis, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit
  • "Americans are leaving the Northeast and Midwest in favor of the South and West."
  • "By about two-to-one, they prefer to live in a hot-weather place over a cold-weather place."
  • 25% say they would most like to live in a suburb; 23% in a city. So much for this notion that nobody wants to live in "bland, cultureless" suburbs...
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Well, I don't know...but the Rustbelt must stop somewhere, and it stops before it gets to Syracuse. The link you provided substantiates this.
Did you even read the article? Syracuse is definitely part of the Rust Belt.

Quoted from Wikipedia:
"Although manufacturing exists nationwide, the (Rust Belt) region is roughly defined as comprising the northern sections of Illinois (particularly the southern portion of the Chicago Metropolitan Area); northern and central Indiana and Ohio; southeastern and northwestern Wisconsin; the Lower Peninsula of Michigan; western and central New York, especially around Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse; Northern New Jersey and the outer boroughs of New York City; most of Pennsylvania; far western portion of the Maryland panhandle; and the northern part of West Virginia, particularly the Northern Panhandle. Other cities such as Baltimore, Maryland, and Wilmington, Delaware which share important economic characteristics are sometimes included. Saint Louis, Missouri may be considered a manufacturing center, although the surrounding parts of Missouri and Illinois are not part of the region."
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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*Is Philly, Chicago, Boston, New York, and D.C. rustbelt? I they are okay, if not some people need to read the thread title.
*I hear some talk about being environmentally friendly (or something close) and I just have to say that, "Stop the bs please?", it's ridiculous. I would put money on California having more people who care about the environment than the entire rustbelt...If you rustbelters really cared about the environment (we all know that you don't) than match your California counterparts who live in trees, and convert their toilet water into fresh spring (tasting) water, reuse their milk after eating cerael, who wash their hands and save the water so they can water their garden in their back yard, etc. Okay, I forgot what else that California family did but I bet the rustbelters on here don't care about the earth that much.
99.9% of Californians are nothing like what you described.

You fail. Try again.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:22 PM
 
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99.9% of Californians are nothing like what you described.

You fail. Try again.
I'm waiting for you to edit when you've read everything. I'm not going to hold it against you though.
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