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View Poll Results: I would rather live in the...
Rust Belt 182 44.61%
Sun Belt 226 55.39%
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:12 PM
 
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I've never heard of "rust-belt" until I read the title of this thread!
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:16 AM
 
Location: ☀ ѕυnѕнιne ѕтaтe ☀
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Sun Belt.

Weather . Humidity is a must.
I do not enjoy the "Older Feel" to a city. Most Rust Belt Cities have a repetitive look in their downtowns and city wise with the grid system. it's boring when you can go to another boring city. Yeah

Sun Belt.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Newtown, Bucks County, Pennsylvania
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I voted "Rust Belt" even though where I live is technically a bit outside of it (Philadelphia region). Although, I wouldn't really mind living someplace like Atlanta or Huston or San Diego. The rust belt had its day a few generations ago and the sun belt is having its day now (or rather it was having its day up until 2008). In a few generations both regions will probably run-down, unfortuanitely, and the new boom areas will be elsewhere, possibly none will even be in the U.S.

Interestingly the "Rust Belt" used to be called the "Manufacturing Region" back in the day. I wonder what low-brow nickname the "Sunbelt" will get when it is past its day. "Sunburnt Belt" perhaps?
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:06 AM
 
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I voted "Rust Belt" even though where I live is technically a bit outside of it (Philadelphia region). Although, I wouldn't really mind living someplace like Atlanta or Huston or San Diego. The rust belt had its day a few generations ago and the sun belt is having its day now (or rather it was having its day up until 2008). In a few generations both regions will probably run-down, unfortuanitely, and the new boom areas will be elsewhere, possibly none will even be in the U.S.

Interestingly the "Rust Belt" used to be called the "Manufacturing Region" back in the day. I wonder what low-brow nickname the "Sunbelt" will get when it is past its day. "Sunburnt Belt" perhaps?
It'll probably still be the Sunbelt. I don't think the Sunbelt will go into decline like the Rustbelt did, the Sunbelt might loose it's popularity and growth will slow down, but it won't decline to THAT point, and it'll still be the Sunbelt. The Sunbelt is too HUGE and it's economy too diverse to take that kind of dive.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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It'll probably still be the Sunbelt. I don't think the Sunbelt will go into decline like the Rustbelt did, the Sunbelt might loose it's popularity and growth will slow down, but it won't decline to THAT point, and it'll still be the Sunbelt. The Sunbelt is too HUGE and it's economy too diverse to take that kind of dive.
I'm pretty sure they were saying something very similar in the rust belt 60 years ago. LOL
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:51 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure they were saying something very similar in the rust belt 60 years ago. LOL
The Rust Belt's economy was that diverse back then? WOW. Let's be serious. The Sunbelt stretches a LOOONG way from Miami to LA. I don't think an area THAT large will fall as hard as the Rustbelt. Some of the Rustbelt woes included the weather. Back then AC wasn't developed and it wasn't probable to live in the Sunbelt, but since then people have picked up and moved down here. With and economy this diverse how would it fall that hard? Between Aerospace, Medicine, Tourism, High-Tech, Weapons Defense, Military, Biotech, and Sunshine, the Sunbelt doesn't seem like it's gonna fail(Well, not on the Rustbelt type level.)
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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The Rust Belt's economy was that diverse back then? WOW.. Let's be serious. The Sunbelt stretches a LOOONG way from Miami to LA. I don't think an area THAT large will fall as hard as the Rustbelt. Some of the Rustbelt woes included the weather. Back then AC wasn't developed and it wasn't probable to live in the Sunbelt, but since then people have picked up and moved down here. With and economy this diverse how would it fall that hard? Between Aerospace, Medicine, Tourism, High-Tech, Weapons Defense, Military, Biotech, and Sunshine, the Sunbelt doesn't seem like it's gonna fail(Well, not on the Rustbelt type level.)
The rust belt made just about everything, especially after WWII, when there wasn't much competition from anywhere else in the world. "Everything" is pretty diverse, if you ask me.

If the sun is such a big factor in the sunbelt's success, then why did so many southerners migrate to the north when the rust belt was booming? IMO, they moved to where the jobs were.

Now that the jobs are in the sunbelt, (because of the lower cost to do business, IMO) people are migrating there. But, where will the jobs, (and the people) go next? As bobsmith points out, it might not be in the US at all. Jobs are already leaving the country for foreign lands where it's still OK to pay slave wages.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:33 PM
 
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The Rust Belt's economy was that diverse back then? WOW. Let's be serious. The Sunbelt stretches a LOOONG way from Miami to LA. I don't think an area THAT large will fall as hard as the Rustbelt. Some of the Rustbelt woes included the weather. Back then AC wasn't developed and it wasn't probable to live in the Sunbelt, but since then people have picked up and moved down here. With and economy this diverse how would it fall that hard? Between Aerospace, Medicine, Tourism, High-Tech, Weapons Defense, Military, Biotech, and Sunshine, the Sunbelt doesn't seem like it's gonna fail(Well, not on the Rustbelt type level.)
What's funny is that some "Rust Belt" areas have many, if not all of those industries as well as others. Here are some things in the Syracuse area: Mission Systems & Sensors (MS2) | Lockheed Martin
SRC / Locations / Syracuse New York
Sensis Corporation - Detect the Difference
Hanford Pharmaceuticals
:CNY Biotechnology Research Center
Anaren Microwave - microwave components, subassemblies, LTCC, ceramic processing, Wireless, Space, and Defense Electronics, Amitron
Bristol-Myers Squibb:*Syracuse, New York
Syracuse Convention & Visitors Bureau

So, being in the "Rust Belt" doesn't necessarily mean that it is dead.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:58 PM
 
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The rust belt made just about everything, especially after WWII, when there wasn't much competition from anywhere else in the world. "Everything" is pretty diverse, if you ask me.

If the sun is such a big factor in the sunbelt's success, then why did so many southerners migrate to the north when the rust belt was booming? IMO, they moved to where the jobs were.

Now that the jobs are in the sunbelt, (because of the lower cost to do business, IMO) people are migrating there. But, where will the jobs, (and the people) go next? As bobsmith points out, it might not be in the US at all. Jobs are already leaving the country for foreign lands where it's still OK to pay slave wages.
If that's the case, the US is in trouble in general and not just one belt. The Sunbelt is such a LARGE region. Even if certain areas fail, other parts of the Sunbelt will keep it a float. Remember, we're talking about an region stretching form the east coast to the west coast. Not 8 or 9 states.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:05 PM
 
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If that's the case, the US is in trouble in general and not just one belt. The Sunbelt is such a LARGE region. Even if certain areas fail, other parts of the Sunbelt will keep it a float. Remember, we're talking about an region stretching form the east coast to the west coast. Not 8 or 9 states.
What about the aspect of fresh water, which is in abundance in the "Rust Belt" region? That will be an issue that will come up in the Sun Belt soon enough.
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