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View Poll Results: I would rather live in the...
Rust Belt 182 44.61%
Sun Belt 226 55.39%
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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All I'm saying is that its possible for humans to survive in the desert

Nothing more than that
No, what you did was use Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia as counterexamples to the proposition that living in the desert is eco-unfriendly. And your counterexamples fail in two ways: one, not only were ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia not situated in deserts when the civilizations rose, but in fact human activity helped those two regions to become deserts, which supports the other side's argument, not yours.

Whether or not it's possible for large numbers of people in the desert in "eco-friendly" fashion is not an argument I'm particularly interested in having right now. But if one intends to argue for the proposition that it is possible -- or that people can live in the desert at all -- one had better come up with better examples than ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:41 PM
 
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Not happening so far.

The sun belt has no appeal to me, at least not as a place to live. I've lived in two rust-belt cities now and I've liked them both. So I guess my vote goes to the rust belt.
Yeah, I see that! Rust belt winning 32-31!!!!!!!!!

Take that you sprawl-huggers! Maybe we'll donate y'all a nice SUV to go destory the earth in while we revitalize our beautiful, historic, well-built housing stock!!! .

...... just kidding (but we are finally beating you at something) (watches vote turn dramatically)
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:41 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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This has always been the boarder ( cities below lower Arkansas boarder, or cities below upper Louisana boarder)

Oh yeah Charleston, South Carolina is also a example of a city thats barely below the boarder.
Show me a source. And it's spelled "border."
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:43 PM
 
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I'll take the rust belt.

I like the four different seasons, the friendly people, the public transportation, the rich cultural histories.

I am no advent hater of Sun Belt cities, but one cannot deny that New York, Chicago, Philly, Boston, DC, and the like have many, many more things than any of the Sun Belt cities combined.

And much of the northeast IS basically the Rust Belt, as they did rely on manufacturing like the Midwest.

The Sun Belt just has warm winters. And hurricanes. And plenty of subdivisions and retirement centers.
1. The Sunbelt has 4 seasons, friendly people, public transportation, and rich cultural history.

2. NYC, Philadelphia, Boston, D.C. are NOT part of the Rustbelt.

3. Much of the Sunbelt also relied on manufacturing. There is a long list of industrial cities in the South.

4. The entire U.S. has plenty of subdivisions and retirement centers...and every region has it's weather issues, but only the coastal areas of the South has hurricanes - the majority of the Sunbelt doesn't...and half of the region has cold winters as well.

5. Learn some geography and history before making such silly posts.
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:47 PM
 
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For me its all about sports

Buffalo, Pittsburg, Philly, Cleveland easily beat Dallas, Miami, San Diego, and Atlanta

fact

heck...

even Cleveland beats all four of those in sports terms
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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For me its all about sports

Buffalo, Pittsburg, Philly, Cleveland easily beat Dallas, Miami, San Diego, and Atlanta

fact

heck...

even Cleveland beats all four of those in sports terms
Seriously, how many people do you think move to a city solely because of it's sports teams? Maybe those shirtless miscreants with the multicolored afro wigs...
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:56 PM
 
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For me its all about sports

Buffalo, Pittsburg, Philly, Cleveland easily beat Dallas, Miami, San Diego, and Atlanta

fact

heck...

even Cleveland beats all four of those in sports terms
Are you serious?

11 of the last 16 NBA Champions have been teams from Sunbelt cities...and 7 of the last 16 teams that lost in the NBA finals have been teams from Sunbelt cities...

Pittsburgh and maybe Buffalo are the only Rustbelt NFL teams that can even hold a candle to the dynasties from Miami, Dallas, San Francisco, and D.C.

Which Rustbelt cities have had successful MLB teams? Cincinatti, Philadelphia, and Cleveland (somewhat)...but certainly no better than L.A., Atlanta, and Phoenix.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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For me its all about sports

Buffalo, Pittsburg, Philly, Cleveland easily beat Dallas, Miami, San Diego, and Atlanta

fact

heck...

even Cleveland beats all four of those in sports terms
What about college sports? College sports are a lot more passionate and exciting than pro sports. Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, Austin, Gainsville and many more football stadiums get louder on fall saturdays than any NFL stadium in the rust belt.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:13 PM
 
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Are you serious?

11 of the last 16 NBA Champions have been teams from Sunbelt cities...and 7 of the last 16 teams that lost in the NBA finals have been teams from Sunbelt cities...

Pittsburgh and maybe Buffalo are the only Rustbelt NFL teams that can even hold a candle to the dynasties from Miami, Dallas, San Francisco, and D.C.

Which Rustbelt cities have had successful MLB teams? Cincinatti, Philadelphia, and Cleveland (somewhat)...but certainly no better than L.A., Atlanta, and Phoenix.
NBA sucks

Its all about football
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:14 PM
 
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What about college sports? College sports are a lot more passionate and exciting than pro sports. Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, Austin, Gainsville and many more football stadiums get louder on fall saturdays than any NFL stadium in the rust belt.
ohio state please
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