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View Poll Results: Which metropolitan area is overall better, and would rather live in?
New York metropolitan area 147 50.17%
Los Angeles metropolitan area 107 36.52%
Miami metropolitan area 39 13.31%
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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New York metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New York-White Plains-Wayne, NY-NJ Metropolitan Division
Nassau-Suffolk, NY Metropolitan Division
Newark-Union, NJ-PA Metropolitan Division
Edison-New Brunswick, NJ Metropolitan Division
Rest of the New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Area
"This article is missing citations or needs footnotes. Please help add inline citations to guard against copyright violations and factual inaccuracies."

That is well put. A book on geography is more accurate than Wikipedia because no way are some of the counties shown in that map NYC metro.
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:08 PM
 
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That is well put. A book on geography is more accurate than Wikipedia because no way are some of the counties shown in that map NYC metro.
Actually its correct. Here is a quote from wikipedia on the image.

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BTW, this user is an administrator of wikipedia.

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Old 08-09-2009, 09:25 PM
 
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And if you dont believe wikipedia heres an official pdf file.

NYC MSA PG 49
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/bullet...008/b08-01.pdf
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:51 PM
 
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:48 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Actually its correct. Here is a quote from wikipedia on the image.

BTW, this user is an administrator of wikipedia.

File:New York Metropolitan Area Counties Illustration.PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Including some of those counties as part of "metro NYC" is not accurate. Ulster county has a population of 177,749. The most populated city in that county is Kingston with 23,456 people (2000 census)

Sullivan county has a population of only 73,986; the city of Monticello has only 6,512 people!

If you want to use wiki as a source, check out these links:

United States metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the above link, scroll down to the "top 25." Included in the NYC metro area is New York [City], Northern New Jersey and Long Island. That's it... no remote counties outside of NYC! No Ulster or Sullivan counties!

Now this link: New York metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As can be seen in the above link, the NYC metro area does not stretch way out to the Catskills or remote counties like Ulster or Sullivan.

Just admit there are no mountains in the NYC metro area and you will be a lot better off!
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:26 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I picked Miami metro. NYC seems rather sardinish and concrete, steel, and brick. Yeah, it has huge parks like Central Park, which has been called an oasis, but an oasis means that what surrounds the oasis is, well, non-oasis. In LA and Miami, that oasis feel, the feel of greenery, of palm trees and other trees and grass, etc. extends throughout the metro and isn't really isolated to tiny pockets. People's yards typically have some greenery. LA and Miami provide more opportunity for townhome and single family home living, whereas NYC is pretty much apartment and condo driven with some offering of townhomes and single family homes. Now between LA and Miami, Miami is the greener of the two, the more tropical of the two, the more mediterranean of the two. And actually Miami is the least expensive out of the list. And I definitely like the architecture in Miami better than in NYC and LA. I also like Miami's Latin vibe much better than NYC's Latin vibe and LA's Latin vibe.
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:55 AM
 
Location: where my heart is
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Default Rockland County is 12 miles from Manhattan

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Including some of those counties as part of "metro NYC" is not accurate. Ulster county has a population of 177,749. The most populated city in that county is Kingston with 23,456 people (2000 census)

Sullivan county has a population of only 73,986; the city of Monticello has only 6,512 people!

If you want to use wiki as a source, check out these links:

United States metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the above link, scroll down to the "top 25." Included in the NYC metro area is New York [City], Northern New Jersey and Long Island. That's it... no remote counties outside of NYC! No Ulster or Sullivan counties!

Now this link: New York metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As can be seen in the above link, the NYC metro area does not stretch way out to the Catskills or remote counties like Ulster or Sullivan.

Just admit there are no mountains in the NYC metro area and you will be a lot better off!
and is very much a suburb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocklan...,_New_Yorkburb of NYC.

Bear Mountain is located in Rockland and Orange counties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Mo...ark_State_Park

Putnam County is also considered part of the NYC Metro area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putnam_County,_New_York

Generally speaking, any area service by Metro North RR can be considered a suburb since it is then within commuting distance. I have not listed the areas of Ct. which are considered part of the NYC Metro Area, but you can see where they are from the Metro North map.
r
MTA Metro-North Railroad


The problem seems to lie in the definition of what is a suburb. You simply cannot go by distance alone. Rockland County is very close to Manhattan, yet all of Long Island is considered a suburb. I used to live in western Suffolk county and it took about an hour and a half on the RR to get into Penn Station. The eastern end of LI it will be close to 2 hours into Penn. Yet, you can travel to parts Putnam and Ct. in the same, if not less, time as parts of Long Island.

Millions of peoople come into Manhattan every day to work. The majority don't come in by car. There is a lot of mass transit lines servicing this area. I guess that is what makes it so different from the LA Metro area.

Yes, there are more suburbs. Yes there are mountains in the NYC Metro area. Bear Mountain is very, very nice. We went there many times when I lived in Queens. It is NOT a very long trip either.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:15 AM
 
Location: where my heart is
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Default You are thinking Manhattan

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I picked Miami metro. NYC seems rather sardinish and concrete, steel, and brick. Yeah, it has huge parks like Central Park, which has been called an oasis, but an oasis means that what surrounds the oasis is, well, non-oasis. In LA and Miami, that oasis feel, the feel of greenery, of palm trees and other trees and grass, etc. extends throughout the metro and isn't really isolated to tiny pockets. People's yards typically have some greenery. LA and Miami provide more opportunity for townhome and single family home living, whereas NYC is pretty much apartment and condo driven with some offering of townhomes and single family homes. Now between LA and Miami, Miami is the greener of the two, the more tropical of the two, the more mediterranean of the two. And actually Miami is the least expensive out of the list. And I definitely like the architecture in Miami better than in NYC and LA. I also like Miami's Latin vibe much better than NYC's Latin vibe and LA's Latin vibe.
NYC, let alone the NYC METRO area, are not condos or apartments. In fact in many areas of LI you will be hard pressed to even FIND an apartment building.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:18 AM
 
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I picked Miami metro. NYC seems rather sardinish and concrete, steel, and brick. Yeah, it has huge parks like Central Park, which has been called an oasis, but an oasis means that what surrounds the oasis is, well, non-oasis. In LA and Miami, that oasis feel, the feel of greenery, of palm trees and other trees and grass, etc. extends throughout the metro and isn't really isolated to tiny pockets. People's yards typically have some greenery. LA and Miami provide more opportunity for townhome and single family home living, whereas NYC is pretty much apartment and condo driven with some offering of townhomes and single family homes. Now between LA and Miami, Miami is the greener of the two, the more tropical of the two, the more mediterranean of the two. And actually Miami is the least expensive out of the list. And I definitely like the architecture in Miami better than in NYC and LA. I also like Miami's Latin vibe much better than NYC's Latin vibe and LA's Latin vibe.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:48 AM
 
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Including some of those counties as part of "metro NYC" is not accurate. Ulster county has a population of 177,749. The most populated city in that county is Kingston with 23,456 people (2000 census)

Sullivan county has a population of only 73,986; the city of Monticello has only 6,512 people!

If you want to use wiki as a source, check out these links:

United States metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the above link, scroll down to the "top 25." Included in the NYC metro area is New York [City], Northern New Jersey and Long Island. That's it... no remote counties outside of NYC! No Ulster or Sullivan counties!

Now this link: New York metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As can be seen in the above link, the NYC metro area does not stretch way out to the Catskills or remote counties like Ulster or Sullivan.

Just admit there are no mountains in the NYC metro area and you will be a lot better off!
Somebody is not reading, the pink areas is apart of the CSA nor did i state anything about mountains in post nor was it stated in the statement that was quoted.
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