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View Poll Results: Which metropolitan area is overall better, and would rather live in?
New York metropolitan area 147 50.17%
Los Angeles metropolitan area 107 36.52%
Miami metropolitan area 39 13.31%
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:04 PM
 
Location: where my heart is
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I have never been to Southern Ca., only the North. I don't like tropical at all and Miami is out of the question. Yes, I have been to Miami. NYC is my choice.
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:09 PM
 
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Default how much travelling have YOU done in the north?

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Wrong. You have obviously never been to Southern California, or the Valley of the Sun (Phoenix) in Arizona .

Just because YOU haven't experienced something personally, does not mean it doesn't exist. You need to broaden your horizons a little.
Ever been to the Green Mountains? You seem to broaden YOUR horizans that doesn't include warm weather states and the south.
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:05 PM
 
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Actually, it is statistically shown that Los Angeles is the densest urban area in the US by a margin of 2,000 ppsm over NYC urban area.


That is exactly why Los Angeles is dense because it has a significantly smaller urban area than NYC by size.


There is no reason to add more land to the Los Angeles urban area because 4,300 sq mi is the entire urban area already. New York is a much larger build up area so you include more. The criteria for including urban area goes by a certain minimum density. Once the build up area has a lower density than the minimum density, then it is not included into the urban area. Both NY's and LA's urban areas follow the same criteria.

It would also be disproportionate to include only 4,300 sq miles of NY's urban area cuz that would be cheating since NY has more than that. NYC larger so you have to adjust that as well.
Finally someone understands me.

From Wiki:
The US Census Bureau defines an urban area as: "Core census block groups or blocks that have a population density of at least 1,000 people per square mile (386 per square kilometer) and surrounding census blocks that have an overall density of at least 500 people per square mile (193 per square kilometer)."
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:00 AM
 
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Actually, it is statistically shown that Los Angeles is the densest urban area in the US by a margin of 2,000 ppsm over NYC urban area.


That is exactly why Los Angeles is dense because it has a significantly smaller urban area than NYC by size.


There is no reason to add more land to the Los Angeles urban area because 4,300 sq mi is the entire urban area already. New York is a much larger build up area so you include more. The criteria for including urban area goes by a certain minimum density. Once the build up area has a lower density than the minimum density, then it is not included into the urban area. Both NY's and LA's urban areas follow the same criteria.

It would also be disproportionate to include only 4,300 sq miles of NY's urban area cuz that would be cheating since NY has more than that. NYC larger so you have to adjust that as well.

Thats not what I said. Its kind of misleading to go by the normal density rule. Which is when you take the population and divide by the amount of land you get the amount of density, but thats misleading why because thats not what the actually density is. If i have a town of 10,000 people in 20 sq mi you get a density level of 500 people per sq mi. Who is to say that most of those people in actuality only live in 5 sq mi of the town while like 30 people live on 5 sq mi, 5 sq mi of empty land and two parks take up 2.5 sq mi each. This was my point statistically LAs metro area is denser than NYCs but how do you know that alot of the land is used for the alot of the population.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Ever been to the Green Mountains? You seem to broaden YOUR horizans that doesn't include warm weather states and the south.
Guess again, oh wise one. I happen to originally be from the Midwest.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:33 AM
 
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Guess again, oh wise one. I happen to originally be from the Midwest.
The Green Mountains are not in the MidWest.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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The Green Mountains are not in the MidWest.
And your point is? You accused me of only knowing of the South. I pointed out that I am indeed from the Midwest, so I know of things other than the South.

What does a mountain range in Vermont have to do with the Midwest?
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:06 PM
 
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Thats not what I said. Its kind of misleading to go by the normal density rule. Which is when you take the population and divide by the amount of land you get the amount of density, but thats misleading why because thats not what the actually density is. If i have a town of 10,000 people in 20 sq mi you get a density level of 500 people per sq mi. Who is to say that most of those people in actuality only live in 5 sq mi of the town while like 30 people live on 5 sq mi, 5 sq mi of empty land and two parks take up 2.5 sq mi each. This was my point statistically LAs metro area is denser than NYCs but how do you know that alot of the land is used for the alot of the population.
Well Los Angeles has Griffith Park.

From Wiki:
The park covers 4,210 acres (17 km²) of land, making it one of the largest urban parks in North America...It has also been referred to as the Central Park of Los Angeles, but it is much larger and with a much more untamed, rugged character.

And Angeles National Forest.

From Wiki:
It covers 655,387 acres (1,024.0 sq mi; 2,652.3 km2) and is located in the San Gabriel Mountains of Los Angeles County.

Central Park:
Central Park is a large public, urban park ...but just 1/5 of Los Angeles's Griffith Park.
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:09 PM
 
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[SIZE=2]http://www.lacity.org/rap/dos/parks/griffithPK/gp_info.htm:

With over 4,210 acres of both natural chapparal-covered terrain and landscaped parkland and picnic areas, Griffith Park is the largest municipal park with urban wilderness area in the United States. Situated in the eastern Santa Monica Mountain range, the Park’s elevations range from 384 to 1,625 feet above see level. With an arid climate, the Park’s plant communities vary from coastal sage scrub, oak and walnut woodlands to riparian vegetation with trees in the Park’s deep canyons. The California native plants represented in Griffith Park include the California species of oak, walnut, lilac, mountain mahagony, sages, toyon, and sumac. Present, in small quantities, are the threatened species of manzanita and berberis.
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: New York
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Central Park isn't NYC's largest park.
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