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Am I missing something or is there a ghost poster that isn't showing up/has been deleted? Or am I having an acid flashback and only seeing kidphilly's posts? Entirely possible...
You only see what you want to see. But please share whatever is causing this
And sometimes I speak to myelf, no one else listens anyway
Sorry gang but Philadelphia is #4. Based on historical influence you could probably make the argument that Philadelphia is the #2 city in the country.
No offense to Houston but the idea that Houston is even considered on this list ahead of Philadlephia is mindblowing.Philadlephia is the original city which has been at the very least one of the top 3 regions in this country for 75% of its existence, top 5 for 100% of its existence. Again no offense but The idea that a newbie sprawling region like Houston is more important than Philadephia just doesnt wash with me. 40 years ago Houston was a farming community with 300,000 people and a metro 1/6th the size of Philadephia.
Washington isnt a city in the true sense of the word, rather its a governmental inbred commune where million dollar museums and billion + trillion dollar federal contracts are handed out with shocking regularity. It's a joke to compare Washington to a historical selfmade juggernaut like Philadelphia. Washington shouldnt be the capitol . Washington is nothing but a stage prop for all the history that happened in real cities such as Philadelphia New York Boston and Baltimore. This is a travesty what is going on in DC with Ivory Castle mentality. Go build another $300 M dollar museum in DC while cities that built this country like Detroit,Flint and Toledo crumble in ruins. Unbelievable.
SF despite its acclaim and bloated, narcissistic,self absorbed mindset still cant match the regional influence and overall historical importance that Philadlephia has.
Boston? Lets keep it real here. Back in the day while Boston was pontificating and bickering about the rights/or lack-there-of race/equal rights/soverneignty/religion/ state politics, down yonder in Philadelphia we actually executed a plan to begin a new country.
In this below photo comprises The First____ of the USA. Church,Museum,Theater,University,Hospital,Skyscrap er,. You name it and " The First___ in the USA is probably somewhere in that photo. And that has to stand for something!
Sorry gang but Philadelphia is #4. Based on historical influence you could probably make the argument that Philadelphia is the #2 city in the country.
No offense to Houston but the idea that Houston is even considered on this list ahead of Philadlephia is mindblowing.Philadlephia is the original city which has been at the very least one of the top 3 regions in this country for 75% of its existence, top 5 for 100% of its existence. Again no offense but The idea that a newbie sprawling region like Houston is more important than Philadephia just doesnt wash with me. 40 years ago Houston was a farming community with 300,000 people and a metro 1/6th the size of Philadephia.
Washington isnt a city in the true sense of the word, rather its a governmental inbred commune where million dollar museums and billion + trillion dollar federal contracts are handed out with shocking regularity. It's a joke to compare Washington to a historical selfmade juggernaut like Philadelphia. Washington shouldnt be the capitol . Washington is nothing but a stage prop for all the history that happened in real cities such as Philadelphia New York Boston and Baltimore. This is a travesty what is going on in DC with Ivory Castle mentality. Go build another $300 M dollar museum in DC while cities that built this country like Detroit,Flint and Toledo crumble in ruins. Unbelievable.
SF despite its acclaim and bloated, narcissistic,self absorbed mindset still cant match the regional influence and overall historical importance that Philadlephia has.
Boston? Lets keep it real here. Back in the day while Boston was pontificating and bickering about the rights/or lack-there-of race/equal rights/soverneignty/religion/ state politics, down yonder in Philadelphia we actually executed a plan to begin a new country.
In this below photo comprises The First____ of the USA. Church,Museum,Theater,University,Hospital,Skyscrap er,. You name it and " The First___ in the USA is probably somewhere in that photo. And that has to stand for something!
It does, it higlights how Philly USED to be a top 5 city, and now it isn't. Importance doesn't equal historical signigicance, importance, at least in the sense that this thread is talking about, is a city/metro's economic, cultural, etc contributions. A city's influence on its region, and what things come out of that region can be something that can represent its importance. What is it a major center of? Not, who has the most history.
And everyone has their viewpoints, but I believe that Houston at least can make a case for being in this poll, after the 3 important cities, SF, DC, Boston, and Houston (not in any order), are the next most important cities, but I don't think that Houston is the 4th, or 5th most important city, but it CAN make a case for 6th, but easily takes the 7th spot, in my opinion, but Philly is 7th-8th most important city, depending on who you ask.
Sorry gang but Philadelphia is #4. Based on historical influence you could probably make the argument that Philadelphia is the #2 city in the country.
No offense to Houston but the idea that Houston is even considered on this list ahead of Philadlephia is mindblowing.Philadlephia is the original city which has been at the very least one of the top 3 regions in this country for 75% of its existence, top 5 for 100% of its existence. Again no offense but The idea that a newbie sprawling region like Houston is more important than Philadephia just doesnt wash with me. 40 years ago Houston was a farming community with 300,000 people and a metro 1/6th the size of Philadephia.
Washington isnt a city in the true sense of the word, rather its a governmental inbred commune where million dollar museums and billion + trillion dollar federal contracts are handed out with shocking regularity. It's a joke to compare Washington to a historical selfmade juggernaut like Philadelphia. Washington shouldnt be the capitol . Washington is nothing but a stage prop for all the history that happened in real cities such as Philadelphia New York Boston and Baltimore. This is a travesty what is going on in DC with Ivory Castle mentality. Go build another $300 M dollar museum in DC while cities that built this country like Detroit,Flint and Toledo crumble in ruins. Unbelievable.
SF despite its acclaim and bloated, narcissistic,self absorbed mindset still cant match the regional influence and overall historical importance that Philadlephia has.
Boston? Lets keep it real here. Back in the day while Boston was pontificating and bickering about the rights/or lack-there-of race/equal rights/soverneignty/religion/ state politics, down yonder in Philadelphia we actually executed a plan to begin a new country.
In this below photo comprises The First____ of the USA. Church,Museum,Theater,University,Hospital,Skyscrap er,. You name it and " The First___ in the USA is probably somewhere in that photo. And that has to stand for something!
In a word, NO.
Philly is somewhere in the top 10; it vacated a spot in the top 5 some time ago; it would do well just to clean up its own dilapidated neighborhoods first before worrying about its "standing" in the US....
Philly is somewhere in the top 10; it vacated a spot in the top 5 some time ago; it would do well just to clean up its own dilapidated neighborhoods first before worrying about its "standing" in the US....
Well one good thing is it has, one by one, though parts of North and West Philly may never recover.
But in all honesty given its size (honestly Philly is one city who's influence and size is most diminished via census stats, remember population in it's proximity and very close proximity is closer to Chicago than DFW), wealth, economic power, education, Law, Healthcare etc. the only cities/areas that IMHO can be placed without any argument ahead would be NYC, LA, Chicago, DC, and the bay Area.
DMA Rankings - US TV Households by Market (http://www.tvb.org/rcentral/markettrack/us_hh_by_dma.asp - broken link)
I would like to see someone more familiar with the city to try to make a case for Miami (not really top 5, but in the rankings after that with Philly, Houston, DFW, Atlanta, Boston, and Detroit (in no order (because you all get butthurt so easily))).
What I know:
It's the US headquarters for a lot of Latin American companies and it's also the Latin American headquarters for a lot of US and abroad companies (since the US far more stability and services than almost any Latin American country). It also hosts the headquarters for several moderately large corporations (an odd variety, too, with a bunch of cruise lines, computer retailers, financial service providers, and Burger King). It has a big skyline, a big port, and the seventh largest MSA (4th largest urban area).
It's a well-known destination for vacationers from all around the Americas and Europe as well. It's a little known, to many people, media giant as home to Telemundo and the production arm of Univision which are huge but which people who aren't Spanish speakers simply don't really know. It also has a distinctive local music scene that is influential (among Spanish speakers again). Its institutes of higher education are many, and some of them are gradually gaining in prestige.
Miami's a funny case to measure. It's certainly a very big city as its skyline as well as its name recognition will attest to. However, it seems to have one foot outside the US already, so for most of us it won't seem nearly as big as it is.
I would like to see someone more familiar with the city to try to make a case for Miami (not really top 5, but in the rankings after that with Philly, Houston, DFW, Atlanta, Boston, and Detroit (in no order (because you all get butthurt so easily))).
What I know:
It's the US headquarters for a lot of Latin American companies and it's also the Latin American headquarters for a lot of US and abroad companies (since the US far more stability and services than almost any Latin American country). It also hosts the headquarters for several moderately large corporations (an odd variety, too, with a bunch of cruise lines, computer retailers, financial service providers, and Burger King). It has a big skyline, a big port, and the seventh largest MSA (4th largest urban area).
It's a well-known destination for vacationers from all around the Americas and Europe as well. It's a little known, to many people, media giant as home to Telemundo and the production arm of Univision which are huge but which people who aren't Spanish speakers simply don't really know. It also has a distinctive local music scene that is influential (among Spanish speakers again). Its institutes of higher education are many, and some of them are gradually gaining in prestige.
Miami's a funny case to measure. It's certainly a very big city as its skyline as well as its name recognition will attest to. However, it seems to have one foot outside the US already, so for most of us it won't seem nearly as big as it is.
I would agree, after the top 5 in alphabetical order all these cities are pretty close, this country really has a lot of large cities
Atlanta
Boston
Dallas
Detroit
Houston
Miami
Philadelphia
It does, it higlights how Philly USED to be a top 5 city, and now it isn't. Importance doesn't equal historical signigicance, importance, at least in the sense that this thread is talking about, is a city/metro's economic, cultural, etc contributions.
You are misguided and shortsighted.
Historical importance is critical in any discussion pertaining to heirarchy.
Who is more important in the grand scheme of things? John D. Rockefeller or Biff Rockefeller the III who is schlepping around South Beach living off of Great great grandpops fortune?
Without the Philadlephia regions past historical prowess Houston today could arguably be a poor drug infested Mexican barrio .
And if you want to compare apples to apples Philadlephias regional GDP at 10,000 sq miles(like Houstons) would dwarf Houstons economic impact.Thats without infringing on NYC or Baltimores metro.
Philly is somewhere in the top 10; it vacated a spot in the top 5 some time ago; it would do well just to clean up its own dilapidated neighborhoods first before worrying about its "standing" in the US....
You're confused.
Philadlephias regional pull and accompanying economic assets stands up with any metro in the country save NYC and LA. Philadlephias regional economic impact is arguably closer to Chicago than any other city is to Philadlephia.
Sorry.You guys are in the dark on this one.
Claritas- 2007 Household Income
Regional Households Income worth $1,000,000 to $1,999,999
U.S. TV Household Estimates Designated
Market Area (DMA) — Ranked by Households
Rank Designated Market Area (DMA) TV Households % of US
1 New York, NY 7,493,530 6.524
2 Los Angeles, CA 5,659,170 4.927
3 Chicago, IL 3,501,010 3.048
4 Philadelphia, PA 2,955,190 2.573
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