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What makes a city "livable"? I'm sure that it is a totally subjective thing.
I'm sure such things as "rapid transit" availability, medical facilities, shopping, proximity to "entertainment" venues, etc., are all figured into this list.
But, to me, these things are completely unimportant.
You don't care about being near places that can heal you if you're injured, places where you can purchase goods, or places where you can have fun? Interesting.
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Because there is more to a city than "density", tall buildings, and public transportation?
A lot of CDers places those qualities above all else, but I have news for you. New York City may seem like the ideal city, but it can be a really crappy place to live and I LOVE New York and spent a lot of summers there as a kid.
CDers are mostly promoting an lifestyle many developers and cities are trying to sell to the people not very successfully at least so far, a superfacial pattern or a layout rather than what you really can get in a city, expecting a day when population is out of control everywhere like India, and oil is out. I don't know why maybe they read more of those stuff and got carried away.
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Because there is more to a city than "density", tall buildings, and public transportation?
A lot of CDers places those qualities above all else, but I have news for you. New York City may seem like the ideal city, but it can be a really crappy place to live and I LOVE New York and spent a lot of summers there as a kid.
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Paris? Yuck, sorry. And yes, I've been.
Tokyo? Way too crowded and expensive.
Although there are several others on there I'd agree with.
The list is obviously biased against US cities for some reason.
Reality is biased against US cities.
I think we can all agree that a liveable urban area must have a healthy and highly educated populace, low poverty, low crime, and an aesthetically pleasing built and natural environment. Other considerations are secondary to these.
And on the cost of living front, if anything lists like these only serve to reinforce the tried and true adage that you get what you pay for.
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CDers are mostly promoting an lifestyle many developers and cities are trying to sell to the people not very successfully at least so far, a superfacial pattern or a layout rather than what you really can get in a city, expecting a day when population is out of control everywhere like India, and oil is out. I don't know why maybe they read more of those stuff and got carried away.
That's noble, but that's not all you need to have a livable city.
Some of the cities on the list have fairly reasonable costs-of-living. There are also quite a few cities of the developed world that have comparable or greater costs-of-living that haven't made the list (several of them in the US).
Paris? Yuck, sorry. And yes, I've been.
Tokyo? Way too crowded and expensive.
Although there are several others on there I'd agree with.
The list is obviously biased against US cities for some reason.
Paris... Yuck?
Paris is amazing.
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