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Old 07-28-2009, 07:45 PM
 
Location: New York
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Paris... Yuck?

Are you aware of your own disgusting TX surroundings?

Paris is amazing.
Paris doesn't appeal to everyone including me, and I don't find Texas disgusting either, I personally would rather live in Texas than Paris, and I assume he/she would too.
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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You don't care about being near places that can heal you if you're injured, places where you can purchase goods, or places where you can have fun? Interesting.



What do you mean?
Heal me if I am injured? Please. PLEASE. Medical facilities do not heal you. They might stop you from bleeding so you do not bleed to death, but you know what? 100 years ago people knew how to do these things WITHOUT doctors - and such things as setting bones and doing minor surgery too! Amazing isn't it? People being responsible for their OWN health instead of running to a doctor for every little sniffle or runny nose?

As for what I mean when I say I don't want the government involved in my day to day life, I mean such things as having to have a building permit to put a shed or chicken house on your property. Needing to have a permit or license to have a yard sale or sell excess produce from your garden, etc. That kind of thing.

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Old 07-28-2009, 09:05 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Paris, yuck? That may be your opinion, but it's considered to be one of the greatest and most beautiful cities in the world by many people, so I don't know why you're surprised by it being on the list. Tokyo may be crowded and expensive, but the sounds of it, this list was created by Europeans. Most of their major cities are crowded and expensive. They don't share the American dream of having a yard and a picket fence, etc, so those other factors which you listed aren't detrimental in their eyes.
I suppose so.
Yes, I thought Paris was dirty and expensive. Nice place to visit, great attractions, but did nothing else for me.
Tokyo - I don't equate "expensive" or "crowded" with high quality of life. At all. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Paris... Yuck?
I thought it was dirty, sorry. I got mugged on the gross subway too. No thanks. Great attractions to visit; not so great to live. I'm entitled to an opinion.

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Are you aware of your own disgusting TX surroundings?
Since you seem to know so well, why don't you inform me?
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Paris doesn't appeal to everyone including me, and I don't find Texas disgusting either, I personally would rather live in Texas than Paris, and I assume he/she would too.
Yeh,why not Paris....Paris,Texas that is.
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Heal me if I am injured? Please. PLEASE. Medical facilities do not heal you. They might stop you from bleeding so you do not bleed to death
Thanks for letting me know that. Just one thing, who should I thank for treating my mother and father after they were each diagnosed with cancer fifteen months apart from one another in the past three years? Because if they weren't cured by doctors, I would definitely like to know who I should thank.

How about my uncle who had a stroke earlier this year, or another uncle who had a brain anuerysm three years ago? Both of them are back to normal now...but I will make sure not to be grateful towards any of the medical facilities which made them not die or suffer severe brain damage. Especially with cases involving strokes and anuerysms, minutes make a huge difference. So excuse me if I don't agree with anything you just said.

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100 years ago people knew how to do these things WITHOUT doctors - and such things as setting bones and doing minor surgery too! Amazing isn't it? People being responsible for their OWN health instead of running to a doctor for every little sniffle or runny nose?
Yea and 100 years ago the average life expectancy was 47. You can go and drink the bottle of Old Doc Washburn's Revitalizing Tonic that Gran Pappy gave you as much as you'd like, or have cousin Cletus reset a broken bone and birth yer baby. I'd rather deal with someone who has devoted their life to studying human health.

Have fun dealing with polio.

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As for what I mean when I say I don't want the government involved in my day to day life, I mean such things as having to have a building permit to put a shed or chicken house on your property.
That's totally understandable.

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Needing to have a permit or license to have a yard sale or sell excess produce from your garden, etc. That kind of thing.

20yrsinBranson
Are those things necessary for those things? If so, I was totally unaware.
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Miami
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why isnt miami on the list? there is no place on earth like miami. its paradise here.
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Old 07-28-2009, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Denver
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why isnt miami on the list? there is no place on earth like miami. its paradise here.
Miami's quality of life is probably hurt by the horrible crime and horrible poverty. Miami has some amazing qualities, but it also has some very bad qualities too.

I'm sure you love your hometown, but try to look at it from an objective point of view.
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Old 07-28-2009, 10:33 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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And on the cost of living front, if anything lists like these only serve to reinforce the tried and true adage that you get what you pay for.
True adage? I don't think it's so black-and-white. And I know some people love to use this as a way to validate how much they're paying to live where they do, or whatever, and sometimes there's truth in that but often there's not. For example, with housing: I've been many places where $300-400k will get you something rather dumpy and in an area I found little other redeeming value or attraction. Why the high cost? Probably lack of land on which to build, taxes, higher construction costs, etc. Not because the area was so much more desirable than another. On the other hand, $300-400k will get you pretty sweet digs where I live.

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Also note that Monocle is not a magazine that is necessarily concerned about finances. They assume that most people who read it are making a ton of money.
Obviously. When finances, job market and similar are taken into account, the list is quite different. And no snide comments please ... the title of that article was "best places to live, work and play", not "best places live on the cheap but you'll be in a boring ugly dump."
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Old 07-28-2009, 10:34 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Thanks for letting me know that. Just one thing, who should I thank for treating my mother and father after they were each diagnosed with cancer fifteen months apart from one another in the past three years? Because if they weren't cured by doctors, I would definitely like to know who I should thank.

How about my uncle who had a stroke earlier this year, or another uncle who had a brain anuerysm three years ago? Both of them are back to normal now...but I will make sure not to be grateful towards any of the medical facilities which made them not die or suffer severe brain damage. Especially with cases involving strokes and anuerysms, minutes make a huge difference. So excuse me if I don't agree with anything you just said.



Yea and 100 years ago the average life expectancy was 47. You can go and drink the bottle of Old Doc Washburn's Revitalizing Tonic that Gran Pappy gave you as much as you'd like, or have cousin Cletus reset a broken bone and birth yer baby. I'd rather deal with someone who has devoted their life to studying human health.

Have fun dealing with polio.

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WOW - what drama you have in your life. I guess I am just really, really fortunate that everybody in my family is incredibly healthy and doesn't have to deal with one medical thing after another.

Nobody in my family goes to doctors - they don't need to. So I guess if I had a lot of sick or ailing people around me, I guess I would feel differently about it.

Keeping in mind, of course that over 100,000+ people died because of the medical care they received last year. Just a thought.

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