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Old 07-30-2009, 01:57 AM
 
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Yeah you are just obsessed. I know. Nice picture. But there is no such thing as real Eiffel or fake Eiffel. There is only one and the picture I showed is the same one as this one you are showing. It is nice looking from the street especially during night but it is actually filthy up there. Many things in real life work that way, with a good superficial appearance but rotten inside.

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Ironically, that photo of the cigarette buds looks nicer than anything I've ever seen in Houston. There will never be anything in Houston that has 1% of the beauty of Eiffel.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:01 AM
 
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Yeah you are just obsessed. I know. Nice picture. But there is no such thing as real Eiffel or fake Eiffel. There is only one and the picture I showed is the same one as this.
I'm pretty sure the underbelly of my Mercedes is dirty but it's still a beautiful and clean car.

I don't care about cigarette butts left at the top of the Eiffel by tourists. The only people who will see is Americans like you at the top gawking at the cityscape from above. In America, stucco strip malls are apparently considered beautiful. Poor people. Enjoy the view.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:13 AM
 
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The only arguments I can get out of you is "I would rather...". This is not convincing at all. I am sure Paris didn't get on to that top 25 list because of Eiffel tower or Place de la Concorde fountain or classic architecture lined up the street. However, this is just what you can talk about. Poor superficial people who care about complex appearance inherited from predecessors more than anything else. I wouldn't say people in Paris are all like you.

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There is hardly any garbage in Paris. I would rather see a random overflown garbage can than poison my lungs with the toxic air or deal with the architectural abortions lining the cracked, polluted car clogged asphalt of Houston.

The real Eiffel Tower:



Ironically, that photo of the cigarette buds looks nicer than anything I've ever seen in Houston. There will never be anything in Houston that has 1% of the beauty of Eiffel.
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:29 AM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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Yes, South Auckland is grand luxury...
Casual name drop.

Look everyone, krudmonk knows the socio-economic standing of Auckland neighborhoods!!
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Houston:

Paris:

LOL. OK.

*shakes head *
Please.
You'll have to do a lot better than picking a photo from an ugly road in a bad area from one city and comparing it to a nice photo from the the other city to generalize the two cities. Anyone can do that with anywhere, don't you see?

Moving along now...
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:13 AM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Since this is just a game for you, why not. By the way, I don't find your picture of Houston disturbing. It is just not dense, but very clean and pleasing from that picture. Beautiful flowers. Looks quite livable. Livable doesn't equal high density or complex structures. Many of the cities on the list are not that dense or have very complex classic buildings.
Thank you, but I think we're wasting our time.

His "nice" photo of Houston wasn't even that nice, by the way. It's a strip center along a major road. Uptown is nice but no, it's not the nicest part of town. I have some nicer photos posted here:
//www.city-data.com/forum/6246710-post34.html
//www.city-data.com/forum/7013570-post7.html

He's uneducated on Houston, among other things. Houston ranks in the top 5-7 restaurant cities in the US. I don't feel like wasting anymore time with him, so he can go look that up on Forbes or Wine Spectator or something himself. He can also look up that Houston' performing arts theatre district is 2nd in size only to his beloved NYC, and has world-class museums that often attract overseas exhibits that only hit a handful of US cities. Considering it's just "a podunk city in Texas" I'd say that's pretty good.

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Old 07-30-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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You are just saying Paris is beautiful no matter what, which is more ridiculous.
Yes. And to say Paris isn't polluted is an untruth.

Paris Journal; A Breath of Fresh Air? Don't Stroll by the Seine - The New York Times
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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That is a beautiful picture, that blue looks stunning on the Eiffel Tower.
What's ironic is that for anyone who studied architectural history and actually knows what they're talking about, the Eiffel was considered by many to be an eyesore and much too "new" looking when it was first built. Kind of like the structures of newer cities like Houston, Miami, Seattle etc. are today...

Even so, I personally think London has done a better job of mixing the old with the new. I thoroughly enjoyed my visit there, unlike Paris.
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:09 PM
 
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What's ironic is that for anyone who studied architectural history and actually knows what they're talking about, the Eiffel was considered by many to be an eyesore and much too "new" looking when it was first built. Kind of like the structures of newer cities like Houston, Miami, Seattle etc. are today...

Even so, I personally think London has done a better job of mixing the old with the new. I thoroughly enjoyed my visit there, unlike Paris.
Few people believe the Eiffel Tower is beautiful. It's just a landmark. Something to be seen for the purpose of being seen. Ordinary Parisiens care about as much about it and have about as much reverence for it as New Yorkers have for the Statue of Liberty.

And it's still ugly. Sorry, ugly doesn't get better with time. Nor does it get better with cool lighting.
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:30 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Few people believe the Eiffel Tower is beautiful. It's just a landmark. Something to be seen for the purpose of being seen. Ordinary Parisiens care about as much about it and have about as much reverence for it as New Yorkers have for the Statue of Liberty.
I know, but apparently some others think otherwise.

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And it's still ugly. Sorry, ugly doesn't get better with time. Nor does it get better with cool lighting.
Well, that's a subjective thing isn't it? Personally, I'm neutral on how it looks but think having some sort of interesting landmark is better than having nothing.

I was just pointing it out because the argument was made that Paris was "beautiful" in part for the Eiffel. Among all kinds of related foolish arguments.
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