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You've got to be kidding. Milwaukee compared to NYC? Milwaukee is kinda, well, blah.
Right, because I'm sure you've been to both cities. I've actually read that Milwaukee has the most bars per capita, but I'll go with the Forbes study just for argument's sake. Milwaukee has the 2nd most bars per capita of any major city in the US after Las Vegas. That has to mean something. I mean, somebody must be drinking at all of those bars in order for them to remain in business, right?
For a city of just over 600,000 people we have at least 9 nightlife districts that I can think of: North Ave and Brady St on the East Side; Water St, Old World 3rd St, Milwaukee St, and Cathedral Square in Downtown Milwaukee; the entire Third Ward; all of Walker's Point; and KK Ave in Bay View. Then there's the areas near Marquette University and the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee that have there own little strips of bars and restaurants, but not to the extent of the other areas mentioned.
These per capita things are just crap. The absolute total number and quality is what you experience in real life. There are lines for bars sometimes but it never became such a hassle that you have to think about per capita for such things, like if other people have it, then you have to worry that you don't get your share. In the end, people share stuff like bars, or museums, or theaters, etc, etc. Things make sense for per capita include square footage per capita for housing, number of cars per household, etc. Those are completely different stories.
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Right, because I'm sure you've been to both cities. I've actually read that Milwaukee has the most bars per capita, but I'll go with the Forbes study just for argument's sake. Milwaukee has the 2nd most bars per capita of any major city in the US after Las Vegas. That has to mean something. I mean, somebody must be drinking at all of those bars in order for them to remain in business, right?
For a city of just over 600,000 people we have at least 9 nightlife districts that I can think of: North Ave and Brady St on the East Side; Water St, Old World 3rd St, Milwaukee St, and Cathedral Square in Downtown Milwaukee; the entire Third Ward; all of Walker's Point; and KK Ave in Bay View. Then there's the areas near Marquette University and the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee that have there own little strips of bars and restaurants, but not to the extent of the other areas mentioned.
These per capita things are just crap. The absolute total number is what you experience in real life. There are lines for bars sometimes but it never became such a hassle that you have to think about per capita for such things. In the end, people share stuff like bars.
Huh? Seems like the complete opposite would be true. In real numbers, NYC obviously has more bars, restaurants, and nightclubs than Las Vegas, but because Las Vegas is 1/10th the size of NYC, Las Vegas seems like it has more going on in it because it has more nightlife options per person. Same concept with Milwaukee only on a much less grand of a scale than Sin City.
Whether Las Vegas has more going on is debatable, and even for that illusion, it is because all stuff in Vegas are concentrated on the strip so that people from all over the world flock to that small area, making it more fancy and shiny, not because of the per capita crap. Hell even number of bars per square mile makes more sense than per capita.
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Huh? Seems like the complete opposite would be true. In real numbers, NYC obviously has more bars, restaurants, and nightclubs than Las Vegas, but because Las Vegas is 1/10th the size of NYC, Las Vegas seems like it has more going on in it because it has more nightlife options per person. Same concept with Milwaukee only on a much less grand of a scale than Sin City.
Whether Las Vegas has more going on is debatable, and even for that illusion, it is because all stuff in Vegas are concentrated on the strip so that people from all over the world flock to that small area, making it more fancy and shiny, not because of the per capita crap. Hell even number of bars per square mile makes more sense than per capita.
Going off of your logic, that would mean that NYC is the most dangerous city in the entire US because it has the highest total number of murders annually. However, when we go by murder rates (number of killings per capita), numerous cities like Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore, New Orleans, and Atlanta have a higher murder rate than NYC, despite having fewer total murders. Now apply this very same concept to nightlife and we can stop arguing.
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Hahaha, Portland and Milwaukee have better nightlife than NYC? What a sad pathetic joke.
NYC should be #1 in culture. How does Providence have better culture than NYC? Are they drunk over there at Forbes? As a matter of fact, NYC should be #1 across the board except for cost of living/job growth.
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Hahaha, Portland and Milwaukee have better nightlife than NYC? What a sad pathetic joke.
NYC should be #1 in culture. How does Providence have better culture than NYC? Are they drunk over there at Forbes? As a matter of fact, NYC should be #1 across the board except for cost of living.
What's so hard to understand? Milwaukee has more nightlife per capita, Providence has more culture per capita.
As I said, there are certain things that per capita makes sense, the number of bars is not one of them. You can't apply one situation to the other, because they are different. You have one person who can visit one bar, great. But if you have 5 people who all can visit 3 bars, that is better night life because everyone has more options, despite that the per capita number is smaller.
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Going off of your logic, that would mean that NYC is the most dangerous city in the entire US because it has the highest total number of murders annually. However, when we go by murder rates (number of killings per capita), numerous cities like Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore, New Orleans, and Atlanta have a higher murder rate than NYC, despite having fewer total murders. Now apply this very same concept to nightlife and we can stop arguing.
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As I said, there are certain things that per capita makes sense, the number of bars is not one of them. You can't apply one situation to the other, because they are different. You have one person who can visit one bar, great. But if you have 5 people who all can visit 3 bars, that is better night life because everyone has more options, despite that the per capita number is smaller.
NYC = highest number of flawed arguments per capita.
It could be the horrible job market and low wages in Orlando FL that are driving singles to look at other locations.
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