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View Poll Results: Which city is the fith most important in the nation?
San Francisco 59 43.07%
Houston 32 23.36%
Boston 46 33.58%
Voters: 137. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-06-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: yeah
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Please honey, the South Bay is filthy rich. Turn over a rock and find a Millionaire. Shake a tree and a Billionaire falls out. Your companies are the envy of the world.

That gives you an automatic front row seat in this place we call the Bay Area-and City snobs know that.
Hey, you post at SSP so you know the attitudes to which I'm refering. Sorry to drag it over here, though.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Speaking of MSAs only, DC and SF have almost the exact same Per Capita GDP.

MSAs with population of 1 Million+ by Per Capita GDP, 2007
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA $77,399
Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC $72,153
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA $69,875
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-MD-VA-wV $69,339
New Orleans-Metarie-Kenner, LA $64,892
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX $62,164
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH $61,898
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA $60,584
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA $59,676
Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT $58,807
Denver-Aurora, CO $57,973
Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI $56,593
Dallas-Ft Worth-Arlington, TX $55,859
Indianapolis-Carmel, IN $53,809
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA $53,556
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD $53,495
Salt Lake City, UT $52,912
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA $52,527
Las Vegas-Paradise, NV $51,491
Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI $51,424
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI $51,020
Nashville-Davidson-Murfeesboro-Franklin, TN $50,624
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA $50,064
Pittsburgh, PA $49,834
Columbus, OH $49,573
Orlando-Kissimmee, FL $49,084
Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton, OR-WA $48,391
Richmond, VA $48,325
Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH $48,062
Memphis, TN-MS-AR $47,763
Baltimore-Towson, MD $47,373
Birmingham-Hoover, AL $47,323
Austin-Round Rock, TX $47,261
Kansas City, MO-KS $47,175
Jacksonville, FL $45,582
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL $45,401
Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI $44,603
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ $44,438
Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC $43,568
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville, CA $44,388
Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN $44,356
Louisville-Jefferson County, KY-IN $43,479
Oklahoma City, OK $42,974
St Louis, MO-IL $42,358
Rochester, NY $41,623
Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater, FL $40,237
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA $38,800
San Antonio, TX $37,339
Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY $35,673
Riverside-San Bernardino, CA $27,504
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Hey, you post at SSP so you know the attitudes to which I'm refering. Sorry to drag it over here, though.
I know. What's really strange is one particular forumer who seems to really hate SJ on SSP actually grew up in SJ and wasnt always so hostile.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:36 AM
 
Location: yeah
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I know. What's really strange is one particular forumer who seems to really hate SJ on SSP actually grew up in SJ and wasnt always so hostile.
That's the real inferiority complex: the one that can't be reconciled.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:22 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Dallas is a aviation, manufacturing, corprate, technology, medical, transportation, banking and energy hub.

Houston is overwhelmingly energy and medical, some aeronautics with NASA.

Just doesn't add up.
This chart, from none other than a Dallas publication, shows that Houston's economy is more diverse than Dallas'.
http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/spe/2004/dallas/graphics/8_balancesheet.pdf (broken link)
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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That's all good, but diversity doesn't necessarily equate to importance.

I'll give you the ports, but how does that make Miami more important than Boston?



Aside from the presence of Latin culture, what does Miami do that makes it have more international influence than Boston's world-class universities, financial institutions, high-tech firms, and biotech/pharmaceutical companies?
The city's Port of Miami is known for accommodating the largest volume of cruise ships in the world and most cargo between North American and South America and is home to many cruise line headquarters. Miami is also home to the largest concentration of international banks in the United States. Also you have another huge port just 20 miles north in Ft. Lauderdale.

"Several large companies are headquartered in or around Miami, including but not limited to: Alienware, Arquitectonica, Arrow Air, Bacardi, Benihana, Brightstar Corporation, Burger King, Celebrity Cruises, Carnival Corporation, Carnival Cruise Lines, CompUSA, Crispin Porter + Bogusky, Espírito Santo Financial Group, Fizber.com, Greenberg Traurig, Interval International, Lennar, Norwegian Cruise Lines, Perry Ellis International, RCTV International, Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines, Ryder Systems, Seabourn Cruise Line, Telefónica USA, TeleFutura, Telemundo, Univision, U.S. Century Bank, and World Fuel Services. Because of its proximity to Latin America, Miami serves as the headquarters of Latin American operations for more than 1400 multinational corporations, including AIG, American Airlines, Cisco, Disney, Exxon, FedEx, Kraft Foods, Microsoft, Oracle, SBC Communications, Sony, and Visa International."



Miami home to the National Hurricane Center and US Southern Command.

The area has two major international airports MIA ranking 3rd in International Passengers Ft. Lauderdale ranking 15th. MIA ranks 4th in the US in total air cargo 1st in total International air cargo and is the main distribution point between Latin America and the world. For a city to be considered the economic and cultural capital of a region and not even be in that region is pretty impressive. Also after LA and NYC Miami media prescence is large.



If it was just based on Finance and Education than Boston wins by a LONG shot. But adding transportation, Cultural influence on not just the United States but all of Latin America I think one could argue Miami is ahead of Boston. There are a lot of factors to things like these and I think one is life experience also. Obviously I am from Miami so it seems biases which I am a bit bias. But Miami is always the underdog I am just trying to find a way to argue for it.


With those facts you gave Boston looks like a winner but thats it. On Foreing Policy Global City Index Boston is ranked 29 Miami 32 it is a close race and Miami importance is only growing.

For the US according to Foreign Policy the list should be:

1. New York (1)

2. LA (6)

3. Chicago (8)

4. Washington (11)

5. San Francisco (15)

6.Boston (29)

7. Miami (32)

8. Atlanta (37)
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Even going by your list, which is focused on Foreign Policy and should favor Miami given the port, the US Southern Command, and large foreign-born population, Boston still comes out ahead.

Miami's certainly a big and growing city, but it's not there with Boston quite yet.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Denver
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"Several large companies are headquartered in or around Miami, including but not limited to: Alienware, Arquitectonica, Arrow Air, Bacardi, Benihana, Brightstar Corporation, Burger King, Celebrity Cruises, Carnival Corporation, Carnival Cruise Lines, CompUSA, Crispin Porter + Bogusky, Espírito Santo Financial Group, Fizber.com, Greenberg Traurig, Interval International, Lennar, Norwegian Cruise Lines, Perry Ellis International, RCTV International, Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines, Ryder Systems, Seabourn Cruise Line, Telefónica USA, TeleFutura, Telemundo, Univision, U.S. Century Bank, and World Fuel Services. Because of its proximity to Latin America, Miami serves as the headquarters of Latin American operations for more than 1400 multinational corporations, including AIG, American Airlines, Cisco, Disney, Exxon, FedEx, Kraft Foods, Microsoft, Oracle, SBC Communications, Sony, and Visa International."
Not a bad list, here's what Boston has.


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Also after LA and NYC Miami media prescence is large.
Yea it's the location for several TV shows, but how does that make it important?


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If it was just based on Finance and Education than Boston wins by a LONG shot. But adding transportation, Cultural influence on not just the United States but all of Latin America I think one could argue Miami is ahead of Boston.
I'd say Boston has had a relatively large cultural influence on our country. For example, the Massachusetts' State Constitution was used to help write the US Constitution. Harvard and other institutions of higher learning have educated people that went on to become extremely influential. Hell, LSD was created in Harvard laboratories...good or bad, the cultural impact of that was huge. To compare the overall impact of the two cities' cultures on the United States is unnecessary IMO because the two major culturally influential cities in the country are NYC and LA, end of story. Miami does have a lot of cultural influence from the Latin world, but again, how does that make them more important?

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With those facts you gave Boston looks like a winner but thats it. On Foreing Policy Global City Index Boston is ranked 29 Miami 32 it is a close race and Miami importance is only growing.

For the US according to Foreign Policy the list should be:

1. New York (1)

2. LA (6)

3. Chicago (8)

4. Washington (11)

5. San Francisco (15)

6.Boston (29)

7. Miami (32)

8. Atlanta (37)
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with this...since Miami is close to Boston on this list, it's more important? How does that make sense?
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Denver Colorado
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DENVER!!!,just kidding" San Fran."
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: NE Atlanta Metro
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This chart, from none other than a Dallas publication, shows that Houston's economy is more diverse than Dallas'.
http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/spe/2004/dallas/graphics/8_balancesheet.pdf (broken link)
I sure would like to see more recent figures. The article contains 1999-2000 data, the economic diversity of both Dallas and Houston has changed over the past decade.

Nice find though.
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