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View Poll Results: Which city is the fith most important in the nation?
San Francisco 59 43.07%
Houston 32 23.36%
Boston 46 33.58%
Voters: 137. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-22-2009, 02:49 AM
 
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people here have a bad habit of comparing something vastly superior to something clearly inferior
california wine vs ny wine
california weather vs ny weather
in this thread, SF vs houston

whatever helps you get through the day though =)
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Yeah, that's why New York is like, dead man. Because all the Joe Plumbers moved to the South.

Yawn.
These two ignorant posts exemplify why so many threads desolve into flame wars

Thanks alot guys
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:16 AM
 
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Your bias is ludicrous.

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Houston's are arguably the best in the world. Our hospitals aren't just recognized by the US, but the world. It attracts over 5 million annual patient visits, and over 10,000 are international patients. Also performs the most heart surgeries in the WORLD. Houston is referred as the "City of Medicine" in South America.

Baylor School of Medicine is not just some ok school; it's a very big deal.
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:33 AM
 
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Your bias is ludicrous.
All the things I said were facts; not opinions.
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:37 AM
 
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No, because in order to be important to the US we also need better mass transit, more density, and not be located in the south.
Or the Midwest

But Houston does NOT have the best hospitals overall in the US. They have a couple of good hospitals ranked nationally.. but by no means is it the best in the US.

http://health.usnews.com/health/best-hospitals

Top 4 Overall:
John Hopkins - Baltimore
Mayo Clinic - Rochester
Ronald Reagan - LA
Cleveland Clinic - Cleveland

You do have the best Cancer specialty hospital though. IMO Boston has the best.

For instance, Cleveland Clinic ranks in the #1-5 in 6/16 specialties... and in the top 11 for 15/16 categories.

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Old 08-22-2009, 09:52 AM
 
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Of course they were.

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All the things I said were facts; not opinions.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:15 AM
 
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Or the Midwest

But Houston does NOT have the best hospitals overall in the US. They have a couple of good hospitals ranked nationally.. but by no means is it the best in the US.

Top American Hospitals - US News Best Hospitals

Top 4 Overall:
John Hopkins - Baltimore
Mayo Clinic - Rochester
Ronald Reagan - LA
Cleveland Clinic - Cleveland

You do have the best Cancer specialty hospital though. IMO Boston has the best.

For instance, Cleveland Clinic ranks in the #1-5 in 6/16 specialties... and in the top 11 for 15/16 categories.
TMC hospitals specialize in different areas. It's not full of hospitals that each do the same thing.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:17 AM
 
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Of course they were.
Look them up
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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I have never really understood why people put Houston in the same category as Boston when it comes to healthcare. The facts are pretty clear, but I guess that doesn't really matter on this board.

1) NIH Funding: http://www.bostonredevelopmentauthor...ort%202008.pdf

Boston number 1 in the Nation. Houston was 11th. Read the article the funding gap between Boston and second place New York City is $315m.

2) US News Report Honor Roll: America's Best Hospitals: the 2009–10 Honor Roll - US News and World Report

Boston is the only city in the nation to have two Hospitals ranked in the top 10. Houston? None in top 10.

3) Nations Best Health Plans: Best Health Plans Search - US News and World Report

Top 10:

Commercial Plans: 4 Massachusetts based, 0 Texas
Medicare: 2 Mass, 0 Texas
Medicaid: 2 Mass, 0 Texas

4) Finally Massachusetts is ahead of the nation when it comes to healthcare reform. Near Universal coverage has been achieved (98.7% of the population has health insurance coverage) These decisions were made in the state capital Boston.

So basically quality wise the Healthcare system is superior in Boston. Accessibility is higher and funding is not even close. Please tell me how on earth Houston should even be mentioned in the same sentence as Boston when it comes to Healthcare?
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA & Istanbul, Turkey
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TMC hospitals specialize in different areas. It's not full of hospitals that each do the same thing.
And how exactly do the hospitals in Boston "do the same thing"? Please at the very least open the rankings and read them, it clearly states that MGH scored in 15 different specialties and BWH in 10. That sure doesn't sound like a limited practice to me.
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Old 08-22-2009, 11:01 AM
 
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And how exactly do the hospitals in Boston "do the same thing"? Please at the very least open the rankings and read them, it clearly states that MGH scored in 15 different specialties and BWH in 10. That sure doesn't sound like a limited practice to me.

TMC is ONE area.

Anyways, SF is 5th and Houston is 6th. Boston is "probably" 7th.

Boston has Education, Technology (Houston is big on Technology too), Finance, and Healthcare (Houston is up there; No one never stated Houston was better, than again....it could be).

Houston has Energy, Ports, Aeronautics, Manufacturing,More Fortune 500 companies, Technology, and Healthcare. Boston can't touch us in the first four; Only things Boston has over us is Finance, Education, and maybe Technology depending on how you look at it. Everything else is a little ahead or tied.

Boston's prominence is more regional than national/international. The only thing is really has against Houston is Finance and Technology, but it take a backseat to SF (Silicon Valley), NY, and DC in Technology.

OK, it has top ranking schools, but that is sort of regional instead of actually important to anywhere else in the country (Don't give me that its produced scientist, politicians, lawyers, CEOs,etc) Other schools have too.

Houston is obviously the clear winner after SF; Boston can have 7th. This is not being biased; it's the truth. Historically Boston and SF have, but culturally is subjective. All being about even when it comes to diversity
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