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Oh, I agree about Detroit overall (although you didn't even mention Iggy & the Stooges). But per decade there were scenes and movements in particular cities that went mainstream, and even though Detroit is owed its due for foundations the city hasn't had anything like a Motown in a while.
As for the blandness of the '00s, I dunno. I think it has to do with the fracturing of media by cable and the internet. There's no radio anymore the way I knew it! No common well to dip from! And shiny new technology and information at our fingertips has introduced sensory overload and experimentation with form, while at the same time kids are looking backwards way too much with all the retro business. Things are really unfocused.
Oh, I agree about Detroit overall (although you didn't even mention Iggy & the Stooges). But per decade there were scenes and movements in particular cities that went mainstream, and even though Detroit is owed its due for foundations the city hasn't had anything like a Motown in a while.
As for the blandness of the '00s, I dunno. I think it has to do with the fracturing of media by cable and the internet. There's no radio anymore the way I knew it! No common well to dip from! And shiny new technology and information at our fingertips has introduced sensory overload and experimentation with form, while at the same time kids are looking backwards way too much with all the retro business. Things are really unfocused.
I agree, retro is the new style nowadays. It's strange really. I'm just waiting for somebody to pick up where Kurt Cobain, Michael Jackson, Tupac, and Biggie, left off.
Oh, I agree about Detroit overall (although you didn't even mention Iggy & the Stooges). But per decade there were scenes and movements in particular cities that went mainstream, and even though Detroit is owed its due for foundations the city hasn't had anything like a Motown in a while.
As for the blandness of the '00s, I dunno. I think it has to do with the fracturing of media by cable and the internet. There's no radio anymore the way I knew it! No common well to dip from! And shiny new technology and information at our fingertips has introduced sensory overload and experimentation with form, while at the same time kids are looking backwards way too much with all the retro business. Things are really unfocused.
Where are the Marvin Gayes, Luther Vandross, Tina Turners, Aretha Franklins, Gladys Knights, Isley Brothers, the Temptations of the World. The new school lack talent its more about being a sex symbol today.
I would put Detroit in the top 6 overall, not considering decades.
For me, the top 6 are:
NYC
LA
SF Bay Area
Detroit
Mississippi (you cant understated the importance of the Delta Blues)
Seattle (Grunge and Jimi Hendrix alone puts it there)
No need to explain the first 4!
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Originally Posted by Bunjee
Oh, I agree about Detroit overall (although you didn't even mention Iggy & the Stooges). But per decade there were scenes and movements in particular cities that went mainstream, and even though Detroit is owed its due for foundations the city hasn't had anything like a Motown in a while.
As for the blandness of the '00s, I dunno. I think it has to do with the fracturing of media by cable and the internet. There's no radio anymore the way I knew it! No common well to dip from! And shiny new technology and information at our fingertips has introduced sensory overload and experimentation with form, while at the same time kids are looking backwards way too much with all the retro business. Things are really unfocused.
I agree, retro is the new style nowadays. It's strange really. I'm just waiting for somebody to pick up where Kurt Cobain, Michael Jackson, Tupac, and Biggie, left off.
I have to wonder about the adolescent tension between the gloomy and fluffy. Remember in the '90s there was also the tendency to rework friendly comics into dark fantasies. The modern primitive movement got big. Grunge.
Then it seems a lot of pop culture was bent on infantilization. Everything was being made...younger. It was like this big celebration of childhood and children. I remember catching some reworked Saturday morning cartoon characters, already aimed at preteens, that I was kind of amazed to see were made younger yet, as though it were dangerous for kids to relate to older people, even teenagers. Weird! We scare ourselves too much. I think we worry too much as a culture, and easily retreat.
ETA: Oh, to get back on topic, I guess that's what led to the Orlando business and The Virgin Britney. Poor girl got caught in the pendulum's swing as we anticipated her deflowering. And she accommodated us thinking she was in control. Poor stupid manufactured Disney girl. Now it looks like the public wants teenagers, but with some sense of impending adulthood about them. Sensitive singer-songwriter boys especially.
I have to wonder about the adolescent tension between the gloomy and fluffy. Remember in the '90s there was also the tendency to rework friendly comics into dark fantasies. The modern primitive movement got big. Grunge.
Then it seems a lot of pop culture was bent on infantilization. Everything was being made...younger. It was like this big celebration of childhood and children. I remember catching some reworked Saturday morning cartoon characters, already aimed at preteens, that I was kind of amazed to see were made younger yet, as though it were dangerous for kids to relate to older people, even teenagers. Weird! We scare ourselves too much. I think we worry too much as a culture, and easily retreat.
ETA: Oh, to get back on topic, I guess that's what led to the Orlando business and The Virgin Britney. Poor girl got caught in the pendulum's swing as we anticipated her deflowering. And she accommodated us thinking she was in control. Poor stupid manufactured Disney girl. Now it looks like the public wants teenagers, but with some sense of impending adulthood about them. Sensitive singer-songwriter boys especially.
Haha, EXACTLY. Your post is basically what I was talking about. Everything is targeted towards a MUCH MUCH younger crowd. Younger then that of teenagers. It's funny because I was watching MTV the other day, and I saw some NEW kid, who apparently was founded by pop star Usher, he was no older the 13, in the music video around girls his age, they ALL seemed to be in middle school, and they were throwing some house party. He's freakin 13!!! And there is PLENTY of whiny boys, and they ALL sound the same. It's funny again, I was watching BET the other they and I heard someone singing that sounded JUST LIKE pop-star NE-YO, and nope it was some BRAND NEW whiny voice pop star. I just don't know where music is going now days. SOMEBODY has to takeover and say FOLLOW ME, I know where I'm going. Do you?
Haha, EXACTLY. Your post is basically what I was talking about. Everything is targeted towards a MUCH MUCH younger crowd. Younger then that of teenagers. It's funny because I was watching MTV the other day, and I saw some NEW kid, who apparently was founded by pop star Usher, he was no older the 13, in the music video around girls his age, they ALL seemed to be in middle school, and they were throwing some house party. He's freakin 13!!! And there is PLENTY of whiny boys, and they ALL sound the same. It's funny again, I was watching BET the other they and I heard someone singing that sounded JUST LIKE pop-star NE-YO, and nope it was some BRAND NEW whiny voice pop star. I just don't know where music is going now days. SOMEBODY has to takeover and say FOLLOW ME, I know where I'm going. Do you?
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