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Old 09-30-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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I don't think you've ever been to Eastside San Antonio. It has a much more solid black community than Austin and I definitely think it has stronger ties to the south.

All the way from the neighborhoods around the Alamodome and the AT&T center to the inner ring suburbs like Converse and Kirby. Going down MLK, Foster Rd, Eisenhower, Walzem, FM 78...you have quite a bit of black folks out that way. A lot of these areas make me think of Fort Worth.

Keep in mind that the Eastside seems WORLDS away from the rest of San Antonio.
My family lives on Eastside San Antonio. Your focusing too much on the black community when Austin has southern influence in its white and black community. It's too centrally located to other southern cities to say its not southern at all.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:26 PM
 
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Yes Steve Harvey lives in Dallas and has personal ties with the city of Dallas when he was going through a rough stretch in his life.
His radio show is out of NYC nowadays. I think he lives in Atlanta part time though.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:27 PM
 
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Never said Houston wasn't southern or isn't southern. I was just saying that Houston has some southwestern and hispanic traces. Believe it or not, they will become the largest demographic in the metro area in the next 5-10 years. Also, I didn't say influence when it comes to California. I said connection. But you can add influence in there if you like. There isn't much of a connection with California and states east of Texas. But you can tell it's there in Houston. From it's music to the way some of the suburbs are after world war 2 to an extent. Why do you think people say Houston is like the mini LA or how Houston's and LA's skyline silhoutte look alike.

Also, name another Southern state that has been influenced by Mexico other than Texas to a major degree. I would not underestimate that.
Agree with that. Houston doe have some LA characteristics. TX and CALI are SUPER connected thought the black community. Most blacks that moved out of TX during Jim Crow era moved out to California, in places like LA and Compton, and Oakland. ALOT of them are staring to move back to TX in the 2nd Great Migration.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Keep in mind that the Eastside seems WORLDS away from the rest of San Antonio.
True but that is only a small fraction of the city. The Black community is not very large in San Antonio which is why many on here and me included will say that San Antonio currently has very little to do with the South. Maybe 30-50 years ago but not now.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Never said Houston wasn't southern or isn't southern. I was just saying that Houston has some southwestern and hispanic traces. Believe it or not, they will become the largest demographic in the metro area in the next 5-10 years. Also, I didn't say influence when it comes to California. I said connection. But you can add influence in there if you like. There isn't much of a connection with California and states east of Texas. But you can tell it's there in Houston. From it's music to the way some of the suburbs are after world war 2 to an extent. Why do you think people say Houston is like the mini LA or how Houston's and LA's skyline silhoutte look alike.

Also, name another Southern state that has been influenced by Mexico other than Texas to a major degree. I would not underestimate that.
But Houston isn't in the Mexican part of Texas.

And how is the music influenced by California?
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:30 PM
 
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My family lives on Eastside San Antonio. Your focusing too much on the black community when Austin has southern influence in its white and black community. It's too centrally located to other southern cities to say its not southern at all.
The problem with Austin is it has lost a big chunk of its African American population. It is very shocking considering its a moderate to liberal town. The city from what I understand is now trying to attract young black professionals.

Fort Worth, Dallas & Houston continue to have the largest concentration of blacks. While San Antonio and Austin continues to shrink.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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See I tend to disagree with this statement..Ive noticed no discernible accent in Austin at all, and there is barely any black population. Neither are prevalent in Austin from my experience, and both are things that I consider pretty intrinsic to southern culture. Its also why I think that Dallas and Houston are Southern when it comes down to it..I hear southern accents in Dallas and especially in Ft. Worth...and many native Houstonians have southern accents as well...
True, but East Austin has a large black population, and they tend to be be Southern. But OVERALL I don't really consider Austin Southern.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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Agree with that. Houston doe have some LA characteristics. TX and CALI are SUPER connected thought the black community. Most blacks that moved out of TX during Jim Crow era moved out to California, in places like LA and Compton, and Oakland. ALOT of them are staring to move back to TX in the 2nd Great Migration.

All true...Apparently many blacks moved from both TX and Louisiana to California, Michigan, Wisconsin etc.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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My family lives on Eastside San Antonio. Your focusing too much on the black community when Austin has southern influence in its white and black community. It's too centrally located to other southern cities to say its not southern at all.
I never said Austin wasn't southern. I'm saying it's not more southern than San Antonio.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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Agree with that. Houston doe have some LA characteristics. TX and CALI are SUPER connected thought the black community. Most blacks that moved out of TX during Jim Crow era moved out to California, in places like LA and Compton, and Oakland. ALOT of them are staring to move back to TX in the 2nd Great Migration.

Very true. Lots of Black Louisianans migrated out west as well.

Sort of how Chicago's black population consisted mainly of Mississippians, Alabamians went to Detroit, NC/SC/VA all had migration to New York, Arkansas to St. Louis, etc., etc.
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