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Old 04-08-2010, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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I guess Houston's high humidity scares people away. I don't know what else it would be.
Or overall aesthetics of the city. Some people never seem to grasp, or fully understand Houston's lack of zoning laws. Its funny though, the suburbs aren't that way. Some of them are zoned just as strict, if not stricter than Dallas' most elite burbs.
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:44 AM
 
Location: on assignment
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[quote=will_I_am29;10957390]Okay, I know I am late, but I had just visit Dallas during Labor Day weekend. And I have to say, Dallas is wins as the stereotypical all American city to live, but Houston win because it has an edge...its long and I am sorry, but read below.

Overview: I was born in Amarillo, (a lovely, clean, west Texas mid-size city but that’s another topic battle w/Amarillo vs. Lubbock!!) but I have lived in Houston since I was four years, so about 20 years, anyway Houston is a very huge, diverse and a eccentric city. So I will not try not to be biases as some are.

Weather: What I notice in Dallas was how less humid it was!!!!! OMG... me and my friend was like yes!!!! it was hot ( that weekend was like 100-101 degrees) but not humid, we actually felt a breeze!!! In Houston, it was like 98 degrees, but it was humid, soupy and muggy like Houston. Yes Dallas might be hotter on the thermometer, but you did not feel the heat, like you do in Houston. So, for weather...Dallas wins!!!

Landscape/geography: CLEAN. When I was driving into Dallas on I-45 I was so flabbergasted on how clean the Interstate look!!!! I mean Dallas's I-45 was clean, landscaped and you only saw rolling land, trees and prairie with barely any crazy billboards, trashy establishments and no ongoing strip centers and old business like you see in Houston coming in on I-45 from Dallas. I actually like the fact that you can see only the Dallas skyline (even though Houston has a larger more urban, better and taller skyline than Dallas has) in the background and really nothing else along I-45.But as we got closer to downtown, you saw a little more city life, but not too horrid and ghetto-ish like you see in Houston. Dallas looked clean, in ordered and zoned. As we drove around the northern Dallas area mostly (Addison, Plano, Carrollton, The Galleria area, Oaklawn, Cedar Springs LGBT areas, Allen, McKinney and Frisco) my friend and I was shocked how clean and how elevated and rolling the Dallas area was. The city is pretty hilly and had more character than Houston. Don’t get me wrong, Houston is also pretty in its own way: more lush or treesy (only on the north and small west sides of Houston I might add), but Houston is flat and boring...Dallas wins again, because Dallas is slightly more rolling and elevated its gives the city as hilly feel and it is one clean city.

Music/Nightlife: OMG, Dallas had like two or three R&B stations and since I am a black male, it was amazing and they played some good oldies you barely hear in Houston. I mean, in Houston we only have one R&B station and one ture hip-hop station but in Dallas, they have more and the music seem more upbeat and they played more variety. I’m not crazy, they did. My friend and I was like wow!! The radio stations in the DFW area do not hide their music with edit versions like Houston. Houston is more conservative (when it comes to cussing and etc. we play screw or chopped music which gets old after awhile) and some of the same played out songs. So Dallas wins on the radio. Nightlife in Houston is always vibrant, socially mixed, fun and younger with a predominately more Hispanic vibe. When I am in Montrose or Downtown, the nightlife is always popping and fun. When we were in the Oaklawn and Cedar Springs strip in Dallas, it was nice and okay, but the people really famed that "Dallitude" snobbish mentality and it was more Casucasion. No offensive or bigotry. The LGBT crowd was very clannish and fickle. My friend and I was like, the people here sucks.. And all they the clubs and bar played were dance, techno. Boring!! In Houston, it was more of everything thing. R&B, Hip hop, Euro dance, West Coast etc.. Not just ten year old dance or techno. Houston wins....

Fashion/Style: Dallas was very conservative and boring I notice. We all went to the Dallas Galleria (Houstons is better!!!) and the ritzy Stonebriar Centre in suburban Frisco and my friends and I was like, wow, the people here are very kakis and polo shirts or plan Librarian types. Not alternative or stylish fashionistas like you see more in Houston. My other good (white) friend who lives in Carrollton but grow up in Houston stated that’s how the Dallas area was. The folks in Dallas are strongly uptight, dress conservative but very expensive and orderly like JCrew or Ann Taylor-ish. In Houston, she stated people or more "trendy-friendly" alternative and flashier. Houston is very laid back, funky, creative and whatever goes. And she had a point, because in Houston you can see a hick in cowboy boots, and dusty jeans to a goth/emo kid to a women who just stepped out of Sex and the City or a jerkin boy who is the into the Hip-hop crowd. So Houston wins in the most fashion forwardness..

Cosmopolitan/Urban: Dallas is cosmopolitan and Houston is Urban. Dallas is more Texan/Midwestern and Houston is more costal/ southern Lousiana-ish. Period. But... Houston is urban and more internationally diverse. Houston is very integrated as a city, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, blue, brown, pink, blue, gay, tranny etc... In Houston, people are more mixed in, more social. You can live anywhere in Houston and in most of its nice suburbs (Sugar Land, Katy, Pearland, and Cypress) and see some type of diversity. In Dallas, it was more North: whites, West: Hispanics, South: blacks, not diversity. I didn’t see a lot of races and cultures in Dallas like I live among in Houston. Dallas is nice in a yuppie crust way, Houston is nice in an urban all classes sort of way. Houston wins.

Food/Restaurant: While in Dallas, we mostly ate around the "Belt Line" strip in Addison, OMG...it was like Westheimer with a face lift!!!! I loved it. It had all you can think of and much more. Addison was North Dallas playground for food, fun and bars. It was nice, clean and interesting. Some parts on the [SIZE=3]Westheimer[/SIZE] and Richmond in Houston can be old, gritty and ghetto (except the Uptown Galleria area or Kirby District) the Belt Line area in Addison seems to be tourist and clean friendly. Also Dallas has more places open that have long closed in Houston like: Grandys!!! And Braums!!! I haven been there since I was a little kid. Dallas is the pre capita or restaurants. But there was no Chinatown or Spanish area, soul food joints or good sushi bars to get true authentic food, like we have in Houston. I am spoiled in Houston and its ethnic culture Dallas was more bland and sterile and Midwestern. Houston is a food city and culturally centered on food. So we are fat and loving it, lol...Houston wins

Houses/Etc... Alleys, did not know Dallas was an alley city. We picked up our friend who lived in a nice and quiet neighborhood in Carrollton and I notice how most of the houses in the Dallas area had alleys? It was different but I liked it!!!! Houston barely if any has alleys and since my mother is from Amarillo she grow up seeing them in her neighborhood and stated alleys are good because it was to keep away trash build up and cars parking on the residential streets. And I notice that in Dallas suburbs. I wonder why Houston did not have them. Maybe since Houston is zoning free it doesn’t work? Plus I notice the Toll roads in Dallas were so clean, cheap and awesome looking and quick!! Not so much traffic or ongoing constructions like you see in Houston. Plus Houston's toll ways mostly look damaged or dirty with ghetto looking people who work in the booths looking annoyed. I didn’t notice that in Dallas. My Houston friend loved that fact that you can get anywhere on the toll roads in Dallas under thirty minutes. In Houston it’s an hour!!! Dallas is so conventional, don’t get me wrong we saw traffic, but it was moving and drivers in Dallas are so FREINDLY!!! Houston has the rudest and the most selfish drives in America. OMG!!!! Dallas totally wins...

Conclusion: I loved Dallas; it’s your clean, neat, typical American city with a bit of a Texan/Midwestern culture with city cosmopolitan flair. If I was not from Texas, Dallas would be my choice of big city to live in. But since I have been raise in Houston, it has grown on me. It’s a love/hate relationship with Houston. Some people love it and some hate it. Houston is a costal city with a hint of a Louisiana-ish and international vibe to it. Yes, Houston is dirty, gritty and it does not take pride in its appearance, but it has that urban vide Dallas did not have. Houston has all walks of life and its Texas true "urban" city. Dallas is the "LA" of Texas and Houston is "The NYC or Chicago" of Texas. Austin is the "San Francisco" of Texas, lol. But I like it here and it has worked for me so far.

So Houston wins....


Hey Will I am, great review, more real/interesting/fun to read than other reviews found in a travel guide. I'm biased towards the metroplex though, however, I enjoy the tall trees N.Houston has to offer, instead of miles of concrete/ac units. Remember TX is a dominator in GDP, more than other countries out there!
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:29 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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DFW has been pulling away from Houston for a while now. DFW is just overall more attractive than Houston.
This isn't true. DFW has not been pulling away. Houston's growth picked up as the decade went on, and it actually gained more new residents than DFW this year. DFW just had a higher natural increase, which it should, since it's the larger metro.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Did we really want to rehash this **** again?
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Did we really want to rehash this **** again?
Seriously.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:17 AM
 
Location: America
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houston is the cooler city, but dallas is the "nicer" city
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Way back when I started traveling for work, I was sent to Dallas quite a bit. I was excited about it at first, but grew tired of it as I realized Dallas wasn't nearly as exciting as I hoped.. I got to the point that I hated Dallas for a while and would insist to people that it must be one of the worst cities. I kept asking my boss to send me to Houston instead. But I was always sent to Dallas, occasionally to Austin. Finally, after a few years, I was sent to do a circuit of a bunch of our Texas offices. I started in Dallas, went to Temple/Waco, Austin, and Houston. Wow. Here I looked forward to Houston as the city that would redeem Texas for me, that would beat Dallas, but no, it was much worse.

A short while later, my boss sent me back with one of my favorite co-workers from Seattle. I thought, "maybe I was too critical last time, maybe I need to give it another chance, fresh start." I also figured being with my co-worker would help, as maybe she can figure out the good part of Houston. Well, she and I cruised through downtown, cruised around our hotel and work area (Westheimer), and we never found it. We found a couple great restaurants, nothing stellar but very good, and that was about it. We both have been to other cities together before and had a blast, and she's come out to NY and I've gone to Seattle and we always had a lot of fun, but in Houston the best thing about it was sharing each other's company, and the city didn't grab us like other cities had - cities like Ft. Lauderdale, L.A., San Francisco, and others (including Vegas, but Vegas is fun for anyone).

Anyway, I was HOPING and looking forward to Houston being much better than Dallas, and it wasn't. I was even biased in favor of Houston over Dallas before ever going to Houston but since going, I have to admit, Dallas is the better city.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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houston is the cooler city, but dallas is the "nicer" city
agreed.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Seriously.
Allow me to break it down:

Houstonite: Houston is better because it has more trees
Dallasite: What the hell, we have lots of trees. Dallas is better because its cleaner
Houstonite: Dallas sucks because its fake
Dallasite: Houston sucks because its ugly
(Insert Poster #2 showing picutre of trees and Poster #1 showing picture of Farm land outside of Dallas).
Poster #1: Look at how ugly Dallas is. Houston is more better/more liberal because the prostitutes and bath houses are out in the open as opposed to hidden
Poster #2: Everything about Houston sucks because it isnt Lakewood. Everything outside 635 sucks because it isnt Lakewood.
Poster #1: Tyler is so progressive and liberal. Its the best city in Texas and its not conservative at all. But there are too many holy rollers, rednecks, and churches in Dallas.
Poster #3: Dallas is the best! Fort Worth sucks! Ive never even been but once! I like to use exclamation points at the end of every sentence!
Poster #4: Dallas and Houston are great, Austin sucks. Austin is such a backwater nazi town. I hate it.
Houstonite: Houston will pull away from Dallas because I live in Houston and like it better.
Dallasite: DFW will pull away from from Houston because I live there and like it better

Sorry, but I couldnt resist!

The cycle never ends!
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:56 AM
 
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Allow me to break it down:

Houstonite: Houston is better because it has more trees
Dallasite: What the hell, we have lots of trees. Dallas is better because its cleaner
Houstonite: Dallas sucks because its fake
Dallasite: Houston sucks because its ugly
(Insert Poster #2 showing picutre of trees and Poster #1 showing picture of Farm land outside of Dallas).
Poster #1: Look at how ugly Dallas is. Houston is more better/more liberal because the prostitutes and bath houses are out in the open as opposed to hidden
Poster #2: Everything about Houston sucks because it isnt Lakewood. Everything outside 635 sucks because it isnt Lakewood.
Poster #1: Tyler is so progressive and liberal. Its the best city in Texas and its not conservative at all. But there are too many holy rollers, rednecks, and churches in Dallas.
Poster #3: Dallas is the best! Fort Worth sucks! Ive never even been but once! I like to use exclamation points at the end of every sentence!
Poster #4: Dallas and Houston are great, Austin sucks. Austin is such a backwater nazi town. I hate it.
Houstonite: Houston will pull away from Dallas because I live in Houston and like it better.
Dallasite: DFW will pull away from from Houston because I live there and like it better

Sorry, but I couldnt resist!

The cycle never ends!

LMAO. Hilarious.

Poster #5: Dallas is too evangelical, that's why I'm here in a whole other state judging it even though I lived there 20 years ago and won't hear it from the people that actually live there.

Poster #6: I've never been to (insert random city here), but I'm going to compare it to Houston anyhow, because I think Houston is better than them anyhow

Poster #7: Man, why do I always have to come in here and defend Dallas, I'm from Ft. Worth! I don't want to have to do this.

Poster #8: More people are moving to Dallas, therefore, Dallas is better.

Poster # 9: No, Houston is better!

Poster #8: I am going by statistics which indicate this because I know more than you. And Uptown is as urbane as anything you'd see in NYC.

Poster #10: I lived in Dallas for a long time, but I'm still bitter even though I live somewhere else. All of you are slaves

(Insert picture of a bad part of Houston here)

(Insert picture of a bad part of Dallas here)

(Insert picture of White Rock Lake Park Here)

(Insert picture of Memorial Park/Hermann Park here)

Poster #11: Well Houston and Dallas are both better than Atlanta

Poster #12: What?! Atlanta has the busiest airport! Coca-Cola! CNN!

Poster #11: Who cares about an airport?

Poster #12: @)%@))!!!!!

Moderator comes in to warn people

And scene...

Sorry, I couldn't resist either. We know how we roll, LOL.
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