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they might exist but maybe not in the numbers or presence you think. There are 605,150 registered Democrats vs. 382,336 registered GOP voters (to go along with 459,205 Independents) in Miami Dade.....Registered GOP voters represent only 26.2% of all voters and not all of these GOP voters are racist right wing either. Here you go:
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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true--and they will go out of their way to remind/correct you....quite the contrast from when I lived in CA, where Mexicans (and others) proudly identified as Latino.
This is tough...
I am from California (Bay Area) and I appreciate all the things we have available to us in this state...geographically San Diego is near perfect, but I don't care so much for the city and it's urban fabric, I definitely like Miami better as a city. Here are my pros and cons for both:
Miami Pros:
-warm ocean beach culture
-very international
-great nightlife
-the least American feeling city in US
-warm all year long
-fantastic access to latin american culture and cuisine
-lot's of beautiful girls (good looking population in general)
-cheaper flights to other east coast/carribbean destinations
-Miami lives up to it's stereotypes and reputation, a pretty what you see/what you've heard is what you get type of place
Miami Cons:
-Florida
-Hurricanes
-rain
-wealth gap
-col vs wages
-relatively segregated
-lack of organic food
-palatable superficialism contrasted by palatable poverty
San Diego Pros:
-California
-access to Tijuana (Mexico)
-nearly idyllic weather
-great beer scene
-very good food scene (and getting better)
-beautiful beaches
-beautiful scenery in general, and quick access to outdoor recreation (mountains nearby)
-beatiful girls
-lot's of growth and fresh creativity, it's a city that hasn't plateaud and is evolving for the better, so right now is an exciting time to be there
San Diego Cons:
-typical Californian freezing ocean water -terrible public transport, far too car dependent
-suburban sprawl and non dynamic neighborhoods, loses most of its urban structure right when you leave downtown
-college culture can feel dominate
-a strange overwelming presence of upper middle class-upper class wasp culture even though it is a relatively diverse and integrated city
-dull nightlife scene (liquor sales stop at 2am all over CA)
-chain stores everywhere
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So San Diego, with 13 northbound Amtrak departures daily, two dedicated commuter trains, and the #5 light rail in the nation "has terrible public transport", but Miami is just fine in this department?
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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I think the poster you responded to had one glaring omission for SD—the Trolley.
Miami does have newly added higher speed and much more modern Virgin Trains /Brightline, that connects with Ft Lauderdale and West Palm Beach and further construction underway to Orlando and Tampa. Metromover, Metrorail and Tri-Rail are additional rail options.
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Originally Posted by Losfrisco
So San Diego, with 13 northbound Amtrak departures daily, two dedicated commuter trains, and the #5 light rail in the nation "has terrible public transport", but Miami is just fine in this department?
Last edited by elchevere; 02-20-2020 at 03:06 PM..
I think the poster you responded to had one glaring omission for SD—the Trolley.
Miami does have newly added higher speed and much more modern Virgin Trains /Brightline, that connects with Ft Lauderdale and West Palm Beach and further construction underway to Orlando and Tampa. Metromover, Metrorail and Tri-Rail are additional rail options.
It's a common slur against SoCal cities.-ignore the fact that they have some of the largest mass transit systems in the country to reinforce "lol sprawl suburb" stereotypes. San Diego is projected to match San Francisco's LRT ridership at #3 in the nation when the blue line extension opens next year. Los Angeles has more than double the HRT ridership of Miami with 30% less track.
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Trains between Miami and Tampa per day: 2
Trains between San Diego and Los Angeles per day: 26
Pretty good numbers for systems that "no one rides."
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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LA (though I thought this thread was about SD) might have double the ridership of Miami since it has double the population. Then again, I wasn’t the one who made the no one rides comment.
Also the comparison using Miami-Tampa is not really apples to apples since the distance between these 2 cities is 4-4.5 hours apart (and construction of Virgin higher speed tracks has not been completed linking these 2 cities), whereas it is half of that time/distance for LA-SD...therefore, a better / closer comparison might be the number of trains between Miami and West Palm Beach each day, which I count as 30 on a daily basis—of which 16 are on a much nicer and newer and higher speed train (Virgin) , not an antiquated train line. The speculation here is that Virgin is eager to increase traffic on its trains from Orlando to Miami, in part, to get more people to go on their recently launched Virgin cruise line.
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Originally Posted by Losfrisco
It's a common slur against SoCal cities.-ignore the fact that they have some of the largest mass transit systems in the country to reinforce "lol sprawl suburb" stereotypes. San Diego is projected to match San Francisco's LRT ridership at #3 in the nation when the blue line extension opens next year. Los Angeles has more than double the HRT ridership of Miami with 30% less track.
Also-
Trains between Miami and Tampa per day: 2
Trains between San Diego and Los Angeles per day: 26
Pretty good numbers for systems that "no one rides."
Last edited by elchevere; 02-20-2020 at 07:21 PM..
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