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Spin off thread from the Pueblo thread under the Colorado forums. Pretty simple really, which city (Longmont or Pueblo) is overall the better city (in regards to economy, jobs, industries, traffic, the usual stats except skyline cus Longmont doesn't really have one ). Well i think that this should be a fun one as BOTH cities are fairly equal in MANY aspects. Well, make your thoughts heard or forever keep your peace
Since my first post was on Pueblo's skyline I decided to make the second post on our urban area.
Pueblo is unique in Colorado that we started as 3 separate towns (Pueblo, South Pueblo, Bessemer) and each town had their own downtown. They grew together and was connected by trolley lines. In fact South Pueblo was the junction of all the lines and to this day that area is called "the Junction" although most Puebloans do not know why. Because of this Pueblo has a rather large urban area in fact I would not be surprised if our urban area was larger then Colorado Springs and Fort Collins urban area combined and defiantly larger then Longmont's urban area. This post will, also, show the kind of history Pueblo has. Pueblo rivals Denver as to our history. I will go into more detail on that later but this is a good introduction.
Consolidation and boom
This is such a important part of Pueblo's history it has a separate chapter in a book about Pueblo called "Pueblo a Pictorial History" so I will copy a few lines from the start of the chapter so you guys can see how important this was:
"1886 saw the consolidation of the 3 Pueblos. A Chieftain newspaper article summed up the local sentiment by stating that while support for consolidation was "not as wide as a river nor as deep as a well" it would do. For most citizens, consolidation represented prosperity. Some saw the potential increase in real estate; others saw the second largest city in the state becoming the largest."
In fact Pueblo continued to boom till the flood of 1921 then it took decades for Pueblo to fully recover and then Pueblo boomed after world war 2 till the economic collapse of the 1980s and again it has taken about 20 years for Pueblo to recover. That is why I believe Pueblo is now ready for a 3rd boom and hopefully this time nothing will interrupt it so Pueblo can finally become what they thought it would be in 1886, the states largest city. As they say third time is the charm, I am hoping so!
This area is known as Bessemer. It was called Bessemer because it is located and started by the steel mill and Bessemer is the name of a process to make steel.
This is from WIki:
Sir Henry Bessemer (January 19, 1813 – March 15, 1898) was an English engineer and inventor. Bessemer's name is chiefly known in connection with the Bessemer process for the manufacture of steel.
This is the area of town called the junction located just west of downtown Pueblo.
Pueblo has a few more areas as well, the historic neighborhood north of downtown that was rated as the best historic neighborhood in the state and the top 50 in the country. One east of downtown that is kind of like east Colefax in Denver and south east of downtown that runs in the suburbs or as we call it "the mesa"
Last edited by Josseppie; 11-19-2009 at 10:04 PM..
okay well i appreciate the photos and the competition but did i NOT CLEARLY STATE that skylines were IRRELEVANT to this competition?
besides i think this point has been made CLEARLY throughout this forum: Skylines DON'T make a city.
You can't have a city vs city thread and then say well since my city does not have a skyline that does not count. Also, from watching your posts I think you and I agree that a skyline helps define a city.
Looking at the photos suggests that both cities aren't very attractive Also most people outside Colorado don't know much about either city esp Longmont. I driven thru Pueblo and like south Colorado [mts. & desert]. Once I hiked down into a gorge of the San Juan river, it was really beautiful.
You can't have a city vs city thread and then say well since my city does not have a skyline that does not count. Also, from watching your posts I think you and I agree that a skyline helps define a city.
actually yes i can because there are more ways to compare a city than by looks alone (basically you are implying that someone should start a thread comparing Lost Springs, Wyoming (population 1) with Chicago).
and skylines DON'T always define (in any way) a city, and here are a FEW examples of this:
Black Hawk, Colorado has the tallest building between Denver and SLC (33 stories) yet it has a population of under 200 people (perhaps this is a bad example because the tower is a casino/hotel and BH is a gambling town). My own birthplace of Jacksonville, Florida is massive (over 800,000 people in the proper) yet it's skyline is HIGHLY undeveloped (the same argument can be made for even LA proper and Phoenix, and the OPPOSITE can be made even for Denver). I'll even throw in Longmont: Longmont is a city of roughly 85,000 residents AND it has a VERY high concentration of High-Tech jobs/corporations (Seagate, Xilinx, etc.) yet the city has virtually no skyline to speak of (most likely due to geographical location), so most people would automatically think of Longmont as just another backwater town when really it's a major northern hub both in the economy and in the transportation system (we also have Front Range Community College).
That's not to say that there AREN'T skylines out there that truly define a city in a major way (three bigs ones would be Vegas, NYC, and Chicago).
Now then (since i am still fairly new to this) if someone would be kind enough to tell me how to post pics here i'll gladly post a few of my own of Longmont.
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). Well i think that this should be a fun one as BOTH cities are fairly equal in MANY aspects. Well, make your thoughts heard or forever keep your peace 
Pueblo's Skyline
Also most people outside Colorado don't know much about either city esp Longmont. I driven thru Pueblo and like south Colorado [mts. & desert]. Once I hiked down into a gorge of the San Juan river, it was really beautiful.
