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Old 12-13-2009, 09:46 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Lets see, your first post mentioned Los Angeles, Las Vegas, New York and Montreal I believe.

Well I can see someone saying two of your picks, Los Angeles and New York, both Alpha cities. And I can see someone liking "better weather than NY, plus alot of what NY offers" and palm trees.
Yep, that's a good comparison between Alpha cities, as you said.

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So why have worse weather New York, and for that matter Montreal, on here at all? There are plenty of cities in this United States ALONE that have "better weather than NY, plus alot of what NY offers" and palm trees. And there are certainly better choices than Las Vegas!
My point was that NY and Montreal are excellent cities but L.A. and Vegas get the advantage because of the weather. A city like Chicago, in my opinion, is a nice city but not quite as big or impressive as NY and their weather is even worse than NY's so that drops them even lower. For example, the other night I wanted to go into Manhattan to meet friends and see the Rock. Ctr. tree, but it was freezing cold and I didn't have a heavy enough coat with me. It would have taken too long to go home and then to the city from work, so I ended up not going. In L.A. this would never happen. Their coldest weather doesn't require a heavy winter coat, and such cold weather is rare there.

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To put it bluntly, I am actually kind of surpised you would put Las Vegas second instead of other "better weather" cities like San Diego (much better weather), Houston, Atlanta, Dallas, Honolulu, Miami etc.
Well here it gets a little more subjective. I think most people can agree that L.A. and San Diego are pretty much perfect with weather...but the other cities you listed lead me to believe you love humidity. I prefer dry heat to humid heat. Here in NJ, our summers are so humid it feels like Miami. I hate that. I hate humid heat. I prefer 110 degrees in the dry Vegas desert to 90 and humid in NJ or Florida. To me, Houston is the worst of all as it is all the heat and humidity of Florida without the relief of an ocean breeze, and the city was not even that nice. Miami, Tampa, Ft Lauderdale, West Palm Beach area are all far better than Houston, they have ocean breezes and they are right on the water so you can go swimming.

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IMHO, most major American & Canadian cities would go before Las Vegas as the best city in the world REGARDLESS of weather. Besides the cites you & I already mentioned, other cities like Chicago, Toronto, San Francisco, Boston, Vancouver, Seattle, Philadelphia, etc. Maybe that just me though, lol.
Yeah, I guess I just have an affinity for Las Vegas... I don't agree with all your choices, like Chicago and Toronto to me are almost the same city. Boston is very nice but I'd hate to live there. San Fran is awesome, Seattle is awesome except for the dreary weather, which is a HUGE drawback. Philly is excellent, but more so for its metro area (in NJ). Vancouver is tied with Montreal for best Canadian city, IMO. I love Austin, TX and Albuquerque and Santa Fe, NM also. I love Tucson and Phoenix, AZ and Reno, NV.

It's all opinion and everyone has different tastes.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I actually meant that I didn't notice palm trees when I lived in areas that do have palm trees before I moved to New York. The only people I know who care about palm trees are retired northeastern/midwestern geriatrics who wear diapers.
Why do you know so many retired northeastern/midwestern geriatrics who wear diapers? Are you one yourself?

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Anyway, I might not notice palm trees but what I do notice fabulous restaurants, nice cafes, the best shopping, beautiful homes, beautiful cobblestone streets, famous residents, art, beautiful architecture, upscale urbanity, culture, wealth and sophistication. It's the perfect place to live and take afternoon or evening strolls - it's picturesque, peaceful and ultra safe. Having attained the #3 ranking for the priciest neighborhood in the United States ($3.5m+ median) affirms it.
Aside from the cobblestone streets, thanks for describing Los Angeles for me. I never notice cobblestone streets. The only people I know who care about cobblestone streets are women who watch too many Lifetime movies about quaint New England towns with flowery gardens, antique shops, and Martha Stewart-esque cafes and bistros. If I want cobblestone streets I can always go to Hoboken, anyway. That's where Frank Sinatra was born, you know.

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Your strangely off-base circa 1980s characterization of the WV coupled with you heralding someplace as uncouth as Las Vegas, and LA (not too bad - but not really great) as "best cities in the world" leaves me with no other choice than to brand you as one with a very low level of taste. I wouldn't expect more from a B&Ter who lives in Jersey though.
Actually, it's a circa 1 week ago characterization of the WV and it's right on target. I realize your defense of the WV relies on your portrayal of a certain image of it, but your portrayal conveniently overlooks the most glaring realities of the place. In fact, your description of the WV better suits SoHo, not the WV.

Las Vegas may be "uncouth" in a lot of ways but it doesn't pretend not to be. It's much more honest than a place like the West Village in NY. I'll take a dozen poorly done fake Elvises and the gawdy, garrish neon glitz of casinos on the strip over the transplant Sarah Jessica Parker "Sex in the City" wannabes who live in the West Village any day.

You say "B&Ter" like it's a bad thing... It's not, trust me.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I spent a semester studying abroad in Buenos Aires and it is my favorite city in the world. It is a beautiful place with great weather, great history, beautiful architecture, some of the best nightlife and restaurants in the world, and density that can rival most European cities. It's an affordable city, and the people are awesome. It has a perfect mix of the laid back, fun-loving, colorful South American vibrancy and the sophistication of European and American cities.

1. Buenos Aires
2. New York
3. Barcelona
4. Tel Aviv
5. Istanbul
6. Rio de Janeiro
7. Paris
8. Tokyo
9. Athens
10. Cape Town

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Old 12-13-2009, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I will take 100 degree dry breezy Vegas heat over 87 and super humid midwest/texas heat any day.
If you think that the Midwest is super humid then you haven't been to the South.
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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Miami, LA, etc, etc.
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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I actually meant that I didn't notice palm trees when I lived in areas that do have palm trees before I moved to New York. The only people I know who care about palm trees are retired northeastern/midwestern geriatrics who wear diapers.

Anyway, I might not notice palm trees but what I do notice fabulous restaurants, nice cafes, the best shopping, beautiful homes, beautiful cobblestone streets, famous residents, art, beautiful architecture, upscale urbanity, culture, wealth and sophistication. It's the perfect place to live and take afternoon or evening strolls - it's picturesque, peaceful and ultra safe. Having attained the #3 ranking for the priciest neighborhood in the United States ($3.5m+ median) affirms it.

Your strangely off-base circa 1980s characterization of the WV coupled with you heralding someplace as uncouth as Las Vegas, and LA (not too bad - but not really great) as "best cities in the world" leaves me with no other choice than to brand you as one with a very low level of taste. I wouldn't expect more from a B&Ter who lives in Jersey though.
LLOL ouch. True about the whole palm tree thing though. Its really not that serious seeing all the things nyc has to offer. And bergen you gotta admit you played yourself bringing up las vegas in a topic about world class cities
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:01 PM
 
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Why do you know so many retired northeastern/midwestern geriatrics who wear diapers? Are you one yourself?



Aside from the cobblestone streets, thanks for describing Los Angeles for me. I never notice cobblestone streets. The only people I know who care about cobblestone streets are women who watch too many Lifetime movies about quaint New England towns with flowery gardens, antique shops, and Martha Stewart-esque cafes and bistros. If I want cobblestone streets I can always go to Hoboken, anyway. That's where Frank Sinatra was born, you know.



Actually, it's a circa 1 week ago characterization of the WV and it's right on target. I realize your defense of the WV relies on your portrayal of a certain image of it, but your portrayal conveniently overlooks the most glaring realities of the place. In fact, your description of the WV better suits SoHo, not the WV.

Las Vegas may be "uncouth" in a lot of ways but it doesn't pretend not to be. It's much more honest than a place like the West Village in NY. I'll take a dozen poorly done fake Elvises and the gawdy, garrish neon glitz of casinos on the strip over the transplant Sarah Jessica Parker "Sex in the City" wannabes who live in the West Village any day.

You say "B&Ter" like it's a bad thing... It's not, trust me.
Exactly, other cities have all those factors, palm trees are the added bonus.
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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The ones in those few other US cities look ugly.
Oh, got it.

You are not objective.

And you are way off on it being just a few cities.
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Old 12-13-2009, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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I spent a semester studying abroad in Buenos Aires and it is my favorite city in the world. It is a beautiful place with great weather, great history, beautiful architecture, some of the best nightlife and restaurants in the world, and density that can rival most European cities. It's an affordable city, and the people are awesome. It has a perfect mix of the laid back, fun-loving, colorful South American vibrancy and the sophistication of European and American cities.

1. Buenos Aires
2. New York
3. Barcelona
4. Tel Aviv
5. Istanbul
6. Rio de Janeiro
7. Paris
8. Tokyo
9. Athens
10. Cape Town
Athens may be one of the best cities in the world in history, but it was a little ugly when I went there. The food and the history is amazing, but it isn't very aesthetically nice looking.
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Old 12-13-2009, 06:31 PM
 
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I spent a semester studying abroad in Buenos Aires and it is my favorite city in the world. It is a beautiful place with great weather, great history, beautiful architecture, some of the best nightlife and restaurants in the world, and density that can rival most European cities. It's an affordable city, and the people are awesome. It has a perfect mix of the laid back, fun-loving, colorful South American vibrancy and the sophistication of European and American cities.

1. Buenos Aires
2. New York
3. Barcelona
4. Tel Aviv
5. Istanbul
6. Rio de Janeiro
7. Paris
8. Tokyo
9. Athens
10. Cape Town
I like this list and def agree about Buenos Aires. I still think Rome belongs in the top ten for sure for its great weather, superb history and art, American-influencing culture, vibrancy/color, religious importance. Rome definitely belongs in the top ten.
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