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Old 11-27-2011, 10:58 PM
 
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he is obviously confusing Midtown Houston with the galleria area.

midtown and downtown are joined at the hip while Mid town ATL is some distance away from downtown atl and yet he says it is closer.
Not sure about Houston's setup, but in Atlanta Midtown is adjacent to downtown--joined at the hip as well. The boundary is considered to be somewhere in the general vicinity between the Connector and North Avenue.
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:10 PM
 
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Not sure about Houston's setup, but in Atlanta Midtown is adjacent to downtown--joined at the hip as well. The boundary is considered to be somewhere in the general vicinity between the Connector and North Avenue.
I have lived in both and while midtown ATL is proximate to downtown it is not joined at the hip.

Midtown Houston used to be part of downtown but some guy decided he is gonna put an elevated highway running right through downtown separating a chunk like a curtain. That is how midtown and downtown is joined at the hip. it is one area. if you ignore the curtain it is one area.

Midtown atlanta on the other hand is close but it is clearly CLEARLY a different area. It is not a seemless transition and it is not a lopped off region of downtown it is a region that developed as its own entity.

here is a visual:

http://www.neohouston.com/wp-content...ce-Map-Big.jpg

Midtown is the coloured squares area, and downtown is right across the grey line. It is a continuous grided area that was just split in two


In comparison here is ATL:
http://hotelguides.com/maps/georgia/...own-hotels.jpg

clearly two different areas

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Old 11-27-2011, 11:41 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Well, actually, while they are distinct, DT and MT Atlanta do indeed connect with each other. In fact, they're only separated by the Connector, similar to how 45 cuts off DT from MT Houston. It's almost seamless, going up Peachtree.
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:56 PM
 
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Well, actually, while they are distinct, DT and MT Atlanta do indeed connect with each other. In fact, they're only separated by the Connector, similar to how 45 cuts off DT from MT Houston. It's almost seamless, going up Peachtree.
oh the development in the area is uniform, but the areas are still two distinct areas. It is more similar to TMC and Binz in Houston than DT and Midtown here
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:02 AM
 
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oh the development in the area is uniform, but the areas are still two distinct areas. It is more similar to TMC and Binz in Houston than DT and Midtown here
Well, DT/MT Houston have the uniform grid going for them, but I certainly wouldn't say they are less distinct than DT/MT Atlanta.
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:51 AM
 
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I have lived in both and while midtown ATL is proximate to downtown it is not joined at the hip.

Midtown Houston used to be part of downtown but some guy decided he is gonna put an elevated highway running right through downtown separating a chunk like a curtain. That is how midtown and downtown is joined at the hip. it is one area. if you ignore the curtain it is one area.

Midtown atlanta on the other hand is close but it is clearly CLEARLY a different area. It is not a seemless transition and it is not a lopped off region of downtown it is a region that developed as its own entity.

here is a visual:

http://www.neohouston.com/wp-content...ce-Map-Big.jpg

Midtown is the coloured squares area, and downtown is right across the grey line. It is a continuous grided area that was just split in two


In comparison here is ATL:
http://hotelguides.com/maps/georgia/...own-hotels.jpg

clearly two different areas
The two districts in each city aren't oriented to each other in a similar fashion, but that is clearly a bad map for Atlanta. The unshaded area labeled "Techwood" is Georgia Tech and is a part of Midtown. The area between North Ave, Piedmont, Boulevard, and Highland--also unshaded--is a transitory area between the two districts with some things listed as being within midtown and some within downtown and includes the city's tallest building (BOA tower), Emory University Hospital Midtown, Shakespeare Tavern, Gladys Knight's Chicken and Waffles, Renaissance Park, Central Park, and the Civic Center. In Atlanta, the Connector plays a much larger dividing role between Midtown and downtown and while the two areas have distinct feels, they otherwise connect pretty seamlessly.
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Orlandooooooo
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A lot of Floridas cities downtowns are business only, although by the OP's criteria Jacksonville is the only city that would count although there are three other metros larger. But most of our "Live"activity is away from downtown.
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:57 AM
 
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while the two areas have distinct feels, they otherwise connect pretty seamlessly.
yeah, but here there is not distinction. Take away the highway and you wouldn't know what was what.

I guess it is because it is all the same roads and are perfectly straight going threw the area.
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Old 11-28-2011, 02:08 AM
 
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yeah, but here there is not distinction. Take away the highway and you wouldn't know what was what.

I guess it is because it is all the same roads and are perfectly straight going threw the area.
So why is there a distinction between MT/DT Houston if they're practically the same? Seems like in every other city that has a MT and DT, each has its own distinct personality and vibe. I'm guessing it's just used to describe parts of the urban core in relation to which side of the interstate they're on and nothing more?
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Old 11-28-2011, 02:16 AM
 
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So why is there a distinction between MT/DT Houston if they're practically the same? Seems like in every other city that has a MT and DT, each has its own distinct personality and vibe. I'm guessing it's just used to describe parts of the urban core in relation to which side of the interstate they're on and nothing more?
Yep. Thats it. We don't have a mid town in the normal sense. Mid Town is just the part of DT that got chopped off by highway 45. When people say that it is not as vibrant as mid towns in other cities, well it didn't develop as a midtown it was just a fringe area that was cut off by the highway.

EaDo (east Downtown) got cut off by 59, and it is not a separately developed area either, just a fringe of downtown that didn't develop any style or identity of its own.

The Closest independent Business District is Allen Parkway- 4th ward- Montrose area.
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