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Old 12-22-2012, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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One thing about Cincinnati is that it's much more provincial than Cleveland. Like Minneapolis, people from there tend to think it's the greatest thing around... largely because it's the only thing around. So people like Cali bringing up ridiculous arguments like Cincinnati has better public transit than Cleveland really isn't that surprising.
OMG i never said Cincinnati had better tansit then cleveland and i would love to see a link from what cincinnati downtown is and what cleveland is and the population will all your little facts.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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You show a wide shot of Cinci's skyline and compare it too a portion of Cleveland's? The reason being Cleveland's is much larger. This is how you ''prove'' a point?
I wanted to show a whole view of of each city downtown and i did.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Actually, Cali, Cincinnati's ''downtown'' population includes Over-the-Rhine. If Cleveland included, let's say, Ohio City as it is adjacent to the west of downtown Cleveland, then Cleveland's ''downtown'' population would be about 25,000; adding in the University Circle to east of downtown Cleveland (areas which are, in fact, merging) the population would 35,000+; adding Tremont to the south of downtown Cleveland and were getting to 50,000; Detroit-Shoreway and we're at 65,000+. See how fun and easy it is to manipulate facts.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:08 PM
 
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I wanted to show a whole view of of each city downtown and i did.
Uh, no you didn't.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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One thing about Cincinnati is that it's much more provincial than Cleveland. Like Minneapolis, people from there tend to think it's the greatest thing around... largely because it's the only thing around. So people like Cali bringing up ridiculous arguments like Cincinnati has better public transit than Cleveland really isn't that surprising.
Maybe, but people in Minneapolis actually travel quite a bit. It just happens to be a nice place. Cleveland is close to a lot of places so it's odd to compare it to a more isolated place like Minneapolis and call it provincial. Provincial cities tend to be those that are either very large and prominent (like LA, Chicago or NY), or where people are too poor/not cultured to want to travel.

Although I doubt Cincy has better public transit than Cleveland.....bus maybe, but not rail and probably not system-wide.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Ohio City is NOT part of downtown Cleveland. I don't think OTR is part of downtown Cincy either, but that one's a bit closer and I could at least see the argument. Downtown Cleveland doesn't have a huge residential population but there is a pretty big change going on here and downtown is one of the few very popular places to live in the area right now. I don't know how that compares to Cincy though. Downtown Cleveland is actually a beacon in an otherwise blighted area, and is very nice on a lot of levels, so I can see why people would prefer to live there. There are few cities in the Midwest that actually have a sizeable "downtown population", per the normal definition. Some cities claim a very large area as "downtown", but generally it's any area that people live in that use the CBD to either work or live in. It's usually the core square mile or two of most cities......never much more than that.
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Ohio City is NOT part of downtown Cleveland. I don't think OTR is part of downtown Cincy either, but that one's a bit closer and I could at least see the argument.
Cincinnati's geography has a lot to do with downtown. Locally, most folks consider downtown the basin as it backs into the hillside neighborhoods of Clifton Heights, Fairview and Mount Auburn. Officially, there are several downtown neighborhoods - CBD, OTR, Pendleton, Westend, and Queensgate. So it's not so cut and dry. Recently, to track development and in-migration, there was a report released that grouped the CBD, OTR, and Pendleton together, showing significant population increase to 13,000 in these contiguous and compact neighborhoods.

What that has to do with Cleveland is beyond me. I don't think the two cities compare very well. Cincinnati is a tight, compact city that has many natural boundaries and is a river-town. Cleveland is a lake-front city that does not have the hills and valleys that Cincinnati does.

Either way, I am glad that both cities are on the rise and seem to be stabilizing.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Uh, no you didn't.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nd_skyline.jpg


here you happy?
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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Cincinnati is not "southern". However, I got the impression the locals relate more with Louisville/Lexington/Charleston than they do Cleveland/Detroit/Fort Wayne.

True. When I lived in Cincinnati, I never heard the locals talk about Toledo either.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I love it when people try to find the most flattering picture of their own city, and the least flattering pictures of another to "prove" that their city's skyline is better...
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