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Old 01-07-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: moving again
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Truthfully, I would not disagree Baltimore is worse than most cities. I would say More than half of its central Neighborhoods are what most think it is with ease. Its just Baltimore is larger than most think, and there are just far too many regular, nice neighborhoods out side the core for me to say that most of Baltimore is a ghetto
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Old 01-07-2010, 05:45 PM
 
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Hardly, Chicago's murder rate has fallen in half in the past two decades. If you evaluate the data before you comment, it makes you look less foolish.
Don't even waste your time. Another Chicago basher. Every post he's made has bashed the city.

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Old 01-07-2010, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Don't even waste your time. Another Chicago basher. Every post he's made has bashed the city.

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I figured that out after I wrote the post. Still worthwhile to flag the fools.
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Old 01-07-2010, 06:13 PM
 
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To a certain extent, yes. Pretty much every city has good areas and bad areas, some more of one type than another. But there are some cities where violence and decay are simply more pervasive than elsewhere. Baltimore is a good example of this. There are certainly some lovely, wonderful neighbohoods in Baltimore. But they tend to exist more as patches of good in a sea of bad--significant portions of Baltimore's west, east and south sides are very poor and unpleasant neighborhoods. I contrast that with Baltimore's neighbor to the south, DC, a city also known for having high crime. In DC, most violent crime is highly concentrated in a handful of particularly bad neighborhoods--many of which can be easily avoided. In DC, you can start in the leafy upper northwest neighborhoods, stroll south into Georgetown, and then amble east all the way across the city to the eastern fringes of Capitol Hill--a very large area--and remain in largely safe, vibrant neighborhoods the entire time. That is far more difficult to do in cities such as Baltimore and Detroit.
Does Detroit even have any nice neighborhoods within the city limits, or even Wayne County? From my impression when I went there it seemed that you had to go out into the suburbs to be in a safe area, either north to Oakland County, west to Ann Arbor, or across the river to Windsor, Canada.
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Old 01-07-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: the future
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I think Baltimore is just real old and doesnt have too much recent construction....It does have alot of decent areas in the north and outside of DT....but I agree there's more bad parts than good....Some of Baltimore's rough looking areas might not even be bad though its just the way the city looks.....In D.C you might be in a fairly decent looking neighborhood but be in a dangerous one (columbia heights)....but overrall I think Baltimore is just older looking and more abandoned and D.C is better maintained but has bars on every window even in the nice parts...
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:05 PM
 
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Does Detroit even have any nice neighborhoods within the city limits, or even Wayne County? From my impression when I went there it seemed that you had to go out into the suburbs to be in a safe area, either north to Oakland County, west to Ann Arbor, or across the river to Windsor, Canada.
Yes, there are nice neighborhoods within Detroit city limits. Here are some:
HISTORIC INDIAN VILLAGE
English Village
Welcome to Palmer Woods
UDCAonline.com
http://www.sherwoodforestdetroit.org/
Greater Corktown Development Corp
Boston-Edison Historic District, Detroit Neighborhood
Brush Park Historic District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
East Ferry Avenue Historic District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Woodbridge Historic District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Palmer Park Apartment Building Historic District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Woodward Avenue Action Association
East Jefferson Avenue Residential TR - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
West Village Historic District (Detroit, Michigan) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atkinson Avenue Historic District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Parkland, Detroit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Grandmont Rosedale Development Corporation , Rosedale Park Historic District (Detroit, Michigan) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Virginia Park Historic District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
North Corktown, Detroit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Warrendale's Understated Cool
Detroit Neighborhoods

There are still some nice communities in Wayne County as well like most of Dearborn, Dearborn Heights, the Grosse Pointes, Livonia, Plymouth, most of Harper Woods and the blue collar Downriver towns are still safe, for the most part, but a little bit on the gritty side.
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Old 01-12-2010, 01:53 AM
 
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Detroit's numbers are released. They had 379 homicides in the city in 2009, up 4 from 2008. That works out to a murder rate of 41.5 per 100,000 residents.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20100107/METRO01/1070424/1409/METRO (broken link)
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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This is the list of the cities in the USA with over 500,000 residents in the city proper and their murder rates as calculated from data from news articles reporting the rates and homicide numbers in these cities. Cities with N/A have not had their police department reveal numbers for the year. If there are any errors, please correct me!!!!! Feel free to add any cities that you would like. I only could do so many.


New York City- 461 total murders (5.51 per 100,000 people)
Los Angeles- 308 total murders (8.03 per 100,000 people)
Chicago- 459 total murders (16.08 per 100,000 people)
Houston- 281 total murders (12.53 per 100,000 people)
Phoenix- N/A
Philadelphia- 302 total murders (19.61 per 100,000 people)
San Antonio- 96 total murders (7.1 per 100,000 people)
Dallas- 218 total murders (17.03 per 100,000 people)
San Diego- 39 total murders (3.05 per 100,000 people)
San Jose- 27 total murders (2.85 per 100,000 people)
Detroit- N/A
San Francisco- 45 total murders (5.56 per 100,000 people)
Jacksonville- 104 total murders (12.87 per 100,000 people)
Indianapolis- 100 total murders (12.52 per 100,000 people)
Austin- 23 total murders (3.04 per 100,000 people)
Columbus- 83 total murders (10.99 per 100,000 people)
Fort Worth- N/A
Charlotte- 55 total muders (8.00 per 100,000 people)
Memphis- 135 total murders (20.15 per 100,000 people)
Baltimore- 238 total murders (37.36 per 100,000 people)
Boston- 49 total murders (7.89 per 100,000 people)
El Paso- 13 total murders (2.12 per 100,000 people)
Milwaukee- 72 total murders (11.96 per 100,000 people)
Denver- N/A
Seattle- 20 total murders (3.34 per 100,000 people)
Nashville- N/A
Washington DC- 138 total murders (23 per 100,000 people)
Las Vegas- N/A
Portland- 21 total murders (3.77 per 100,000 people)
Louisville- 71 total murders IN METRO AREA (9.94 per 100,000 people METRO)
Oklahoma City- N/A
Tucson- N/A
Atlanta- 91 total murders (16.91 per 100,000 people)
Albuquerque- 73 total murders (11.49 per 100,000 people)


NOTE: THIS IS ONLY CITY PROPERS WITH MORE THAN 500,000 residents.
Phoenix - 131 approx. Phoenix expects less than 130 when figures released later this month (8.5 per 100,000)
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Old 01-12-2010, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Long Beach, CA
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Thanks WeSoHood for the graphs.

What's interesting is that Canadian cities ALL have significantly lower murder rates per 100,000 people than any US city. Why is that? In my opinion, I believe it's due to the fact that Canadian society is more harmonious, less "dog eat dog" and Canadians have access to a better social safety net than Americans, e.g. universal healthcare. In that sense, many forms of socialism can't all be bad, can they?
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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What's interesting is that Canadian cities ALL have significantly lower murder rates per 100,000 people than any US city. Why is that? In my opinion, I believe it's due to the fact that Canadian society is more harmonious, less "dog eat dog" and Canadians have access to a better social safety net than Americans, e.g. universal healthcare. In that sense, many forms of socialism can't all be bad, can they?
Why be so subjective and vague when much tougher gun control laws offer much simpler explanation? Canada has some of the most restrictive one in the world.
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