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Yeah I remember the first time I went to a Diamondback's game and came out of the nice cool stadium and actually got hit with a breeze of hotness,and a couple years back when my sister was in school there and it was 80 degrees on Thanksgiving. Downtown was pretty dead then too,but since it's little renaissance has gotten a lot better. Sacramento is under going a Renaissance right now so hopefully it gets even better.
No comparison; downtown Phoenix. While there are a couple streets here and there in Tucson, mainly 4th Ave and Sacramento having a smallish downtown as well, downtown Phoenix has 14,000 residents, an Arts District along Roosevelt Row, a CBD (central business district), an arena, stadium, amazing convention center, new high-rises with shopping, nightclubs, grocery stores, a downtown Public Market/Farmers Market, light rail, free downtown DASH bus service, and the list goes on.
There is nothing comparable in Tucson or Sac-town. Tempe isn't really walkable "downtown" as that area is north of Town Lake, but its HUGE university district, Mill District, Maple/Ash, and Town Lake districts all mesh into one HUGE urban zone that makes it extremely walkable. Scottsdale also has a MUCH larger Old Town/Downtown area compared to Sacramento's. There are more residents in downtown Scottsdale alone and the urban districts in Tempe alone than Sacramento.
Arenas, stadiums, and convention centres don't make downtowns more pedestrian-friendly. In fact, 9 times out of 10 they are LESS pedestrian-friendly than what would otherwise be there without these massive facilities that aren't even used every day taking up 10s of acres.
It actually IS bigger than downtown Phoenix. What most people confuse for Phoenix as "downtown" are the historic districts and ALL the high-rise corridors of downtown/midtown/uptown. However, all these together make a walkable, pedestrian friendly area larger than downtown Sac, Tuc, and Alb combined...
Oh please. You think the Central Avenue corridor is "pedestrian friendly"? You've obviously never left Arizona if that's what you think. It is a super-wide, high (auto) speed road with more cars than pedestrians. There are parking lots everywhere, and single-story individual stores and restaurants. Some of the buildings don't even have retail. It is as far from pedestrian friendly as you can possibly get.
I'm going to restart this to ask whether things are any different now that the light rail line has opened in Phoenix. I've been to Sacramento a number of times, I think it has a decent downtown, especially for a Central Valley city. The really nice area is the adjacent residential/restaurant district of Midtown. I've never been to Phoenix.
I'm going to restart this to ask whether things are any different now that the light rail line has opened in Phoenix. I've been to Sacramento a number of times, I think it has a decent downtown, especially for a Central Valley city. The really nice area is the adjacent residential/restaurant district of Midtown. I've never been to Phoenix.
From what I hear it's improved since the light rail, but Downtown Phoenix is still not as pedestrian friendly as downtown Sac.
By far Downtown Sac. Downtown Sacramento streets are narrow and tree-lined; weather is comfortable pretty much year around.
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