Is there a best way to determine comparative city population (highest, size)
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Your post I think is probably the best measure of how truly urban a city is. Your post takes into account different built environments. I think your post, with say a density of around 1-5k, could tell you how urban a city is. Plus commuting patterns.
To centralize the industrial, commercial, commerce and employment centers I can understand Dallas city size. “some cities don’t put all there eggs in one basket” metaphorically Dallas have to have a larger area to cover all it’s (eggs) CBD’s that being said Dallas is going to be less dense. Philly on the other hand has all it’s eggs in one basket if Philly was the size of Dallas it would over annex, gain nothing more than dense suburbs. Posters seem to care more about the density of neighborhoods than there actual functions.
He did one for LA earlier in thread and would also love to see Miami, NYC, Chicago, Houston and Atlanta but feel bad asking (oh I just did)
First NYC, which, clearly, is going to outperform any other city, when it comes to density concentration, by far:
The top 3 zips, pop per sq mile 2007:
10128: 145460 per sq mile
10028: 140054.3
11109: (Long Island City) 121400
It takes a study such as this to illustrate how far ahead the NYC area is, even to Boston, which previously appeared to be the most dense MSA. The NYC area has 183 zip codes that have over 10,000 people per square mile. This includes several zip codes in Northern New Jersey.
In comparison, some of the other cities most densely populated zip codes:
Kansas City: 9331.9
St. Louis: 9465
Denver: 17385
Charlotte: 5771.4
Raleigh: 5537.9
Houston: 17697.7
Boston: 57940
New York City's (and surrounding area) disparity with other cities is even more pronounced than I would have previously considered.
Mike can you do me a favor and do Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Philly, Boston, and DC, and put them on the same scale and density.
This capture what I’m taking about how cities are built different, Boston core is denser than Atlanta but Atlanta sprawl more, but the legends are off so the comparison is off. I’m trying show why sunbelt cities have larger MSAs.
Mike can you do me a favor and do Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Philly, Boston, and DC, and put them on the same scale and density.
This capture what I’m taking about how cities are built different, Boston core is denser than Atlanta but Atlanta sprawl more, but the legends are off so the comparison is off. I’m trying show why sunbelt cities have larger MSAs.
Unbelivably, these two posted maps of Boston and Atlanta are at the same exact scale (1:622000). That's pretty incredible to consider, and it also magnifies how small New England is, scale-wise, compared to the rest of the country. In fact, every map I made is at 1:622000, with the exception of the second Boston map, and the Miami map, which was at 1:585000, slightly smaller, but done in portrait instead of landscape, to depict the unique vertical nature of population dispersion there.
The density classification was different for NY and Boston, because they are much more unique in settlement than the rest of the country. That said, I'll make one overall post, and have the entire setting at 1:622000, and, with 10k being the highest break on density. Is that agreeable, or did you want something different?
Mike we are killing you, but i think this is in a different density distribution
It is. I can adjust Philly to 10k, or make all the others 5k as well. I think you guys need to get consensus, then I'll do a one-off project. Since the files are all saved, it won't take that long to make them all one density classification.
Dude, you're amazing. This is some fantastic stuff.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
