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View Poll Results: Is DC a Northeast city?
Yes 240 65.22%
No 128 34.78%
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Old 10-27-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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Why are all you guys using rappers as the standard for DC and American speech? Gimme a break...I can barely understand what they are saying no matter where their are from...

 
Old 10-27-2010, 02:08 PM
 
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Lls!^^^^^^
 
Old 10-27-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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Why are all you guys using rappers as the standard for DC and American speech? Gimme a break...I can barely understand what they are saying no matter where their are from...
Who ever said that anyone was "using rappers as the standard for DC and American speech?" People have used rappers as examples of the differences in black speech, but no one claimed that this applies to everyone in DC or the United States. The point was that African Americans in the north sound completely different from those in the DC area.
 
Old 10-27-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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Who ever said that anyone was "using rappers as the standard for DC and American speech?" People have used rappers as examples of the differences in black speech, but no one claimed that this applies to everyone in DC or the United States. The point was that African Americans in the north sound completely different from those in the DC area.
Well, for the past couple of pages that's all that have been used. And do only black people live in the NE now or what?
 
Old 10-27-2010, 03:08 PM
 
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Yes. Totally.
 
Old 10-27-2010, 04:32 PM
 
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Well, for the past couple of pages that's all that have been used. And do only black people live in the NE now or what?
How about reading the entire trail of posts before posting a comment.

Those videos show how traveling less than 200 miles to the northeast results in a drastically different dialect. I could have compared South Philly Italians or Brighton Beach Russians to black Washingtonians, but that's not an apples-to-apples comparison. I wanted to compare the accents of blacks from each region, and as you can see in those videos, black Washingtonians have an accent that is decidely more southern than blacks in any other city on the east coast.

Why use black Washingtonians? Because they are far more likely to be native to the region than whites and thus serve as the best barometer of the local culture. It's very much the same way that the Irish in Southie define Boston more so than the students who come to drink and take dumps all over the city for four years. I suppose I could have compared a white Arlingtonian to a white person from NE Philly, but there's really no accent that's readily identifiable as a NOVA/Mid-Atlantic accent. You can't identify someone from Chevy Chase, Maryland the way you can identify someone from Lowell, Massachusetts. Therefore, I used videos containing black people because it is far easier to identify a black person from the DC region than it is a white person.

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Old 10-27-2010, 05:11 PM
 
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How about reading the entire trail of posts before posting a comment.

Those videos show how traveling less than 200 miles to the northeast results in a drastically different dialect. I could have compared South Philly Italians or Brighton Beach Russians to black Washingtonians, but that's not an apples-to-apples comparison. I wanted to compare the accents of blacks from each region, and as you can see in those videos, black Washingtonians have an accent that is decidely more southern than blacks in any other city on the east coast.

Why use black Washingtonians? Because they are far more likely to be native to the region than whites and thus serve as the best barometer of the local culture. It's very much the same way that the Irish in Southie define Boston more so than the students who come to drink and take dumps all over the city for four years. I suppose I could have compared a white Arlingtonian to a white person from NE Philly, but there's really no accent that's readily identifiable as a NOVA/Mid-Atlantic accent. You can't identify someone from Chevy Chase, Maryland the way you can identify someone from Lowell, Massachusetts. Therefore, I used videos containing black people because it is far easier to identify a black person from the DC region than it is a white person.
Aren't you justifying every stereotype of black people not being able to speak correct english by using these examples though? If this is so called the standard of black DC english then it is a pity....
 
Old 10-27-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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Aren't you justifying every stereotype of black people not being able to speak correct english by using these examples though? If this is so called the standard of black DC english then it is a pity....
The point wasn't grammar/syntax, it was ACCENT.
 
Old 10-27-2010, 05:23 PM
 
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No, DC is not a Northeastern city. Once you start getting up near Delaware, that's where the Northeast starts. DC is Mid-Atlantic and the beginning of the South.
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