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This is a commonality that Atlanta shares with NYC (NYC has the largest African-American population and Atlanta the second largest). DC also includes this commonality. The difference is that the affluent African-American populations in both DC in Atlanta far outstrip what you find in NYC in terms of size and percentage. .
No, you are wrong. NYC has far more affluent black folks than Atlanta. NYC just has a MUCH larger population of all races, so has more rich of all races.
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Yes, they do. This is something all three have. It goes:
1. NYC
2. DC
3. Atlanta
{everyone else, but shout out to Minneapolis-St. Paul)
So you admit I am correct. Both have many Africans.
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No, NYC had a single black mayor for a single term and he was elected 16 years after the first African-American mayors of DC and Atlanta.
So you admit I am correct. Both cities have had black mayors.
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Of higher learning? Uh, name a single HBCU in NYC or any university in NYC that is even parallel to that of Howard, Morehouse, Spelman, or Clark-Atlanta University? None exist.
You never said higher learning. You said cultural instutitions.
Obviously NYC does have HBCUs, such as York College in Queens and Medgar Evars College in Brooklyn.
But NYC obviously has a vast array of black cultural instutitions that far surpass Atlanta, from the Apollo Theatre, to the Schomberg Center, to the Studio Museum.
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Guess you've never been to Brooklyn, the Bronx or Queens before, huh?
I think the last time you were in the Outer Boroughs was probably about 1970.
There are many white neighborhoods, but they are not the old-school "Bronx Tale" type neighborhoods. They are more middle or upper class or have a different ethnic mix.
Please name ONE primarily poor or working class white neighborhood in Brooklyn, Bronx and Queens in 2010.
Um, have you been to Bensonhurst lately? It is mostly Chinese!
The working class Italians have mostly left Bensonhurst.
These youtube clips are movies, not real life! And they are from decades ago! A Bronx Tale is from the 50's.
BTW, Goodfellas mostly takes place in Valley Stream, Long Island, not NYC. That is where they live. Not that it matters, because it takes place in the 70's.
The working class white outer borough neighborhoods have almost all been transformed.
New York and Philadelphia still have working-class white neighborhoods. There just aren't as many as there used to be. Washington, DC, on the other hand, has ZERO working-class white neighborhoods, and pretty much ZERO working-class white suburbs. That is the biggest reason why DC is not a northeastern city.
LOL, no, Suburban Detroit is nothing like suburban Atlanta or suburban DC.
For one, suburban Detroit is like 95% White. Suburban DC and Atlanta are extremely diverse and hold the most diversity of their metros.
But there are lots of other differences, but it seems you are stuck on this "just repeat what they" say mode of "debating". Dude, no one is agreeing with you and aren't backing up any of your claims.
No, you don't know what you are talking about.
Suburban Detroit, like suburban Atlanta and DC, holds almost all the diversity of their respective metros. The City of Detroit has little diversity.
And % black is only one measure of diversity. Obviously it's much more than that.
The reason DC and Atlanta have more blacks in their suburbs is because they have more suburbs. The city centers are very small, with only half the size of Detroit.
In Detroit, the middle class black areas are in NW Detroit. In Atlanta and DC, they are in the burbs. Same types of neighborhoods, just one is in city limits, and the other isn't.
Please name ONE primarily poor or working class white neighborhood in Brooklyn, Bronx and Queens in 2010.
Uh...Howard Beach, dude. And nobody ever said "poor." There is no white equivalent of Bedford-Stuyvesant in New York City. However, there are still quite a few working-class Irish and Italian neighborhoods in the city, especially in Staten Island. Besides, I thought we were talking about Metro areas anyway.
Now if you want to see white people living the hard knock life, come to Philadelphia.
New York and Philadelphia still have working-class white neighborhoods. There just aren't as many as there used to be. Washington, DC, on the other hand, has ZERO working-class white neighborhoods, and pretty much ZERO working-class white suburbs. That is the biggest reason why DC is not a northeastern city.
You are right that Philly has some, but NYC doesn't really.
I am completely serious about Bensonhurst. Google street view 18th Avenue in Bensonhurst. You will see TONS of Chinese signs.
The biggest white population in Bensonhurst nowadays is Russian, not Italian. And they're aren't working class, they are middle class, and building big new homes.
NYC and Boston don't have these "Goodfellas"-type neighborhoods anymore. The neighborhoods still exist, but they generally got pricier, and new immigrants replaced the old immigrants.
Philly is cheaper and gets fewer immigrants, so the old school neighborhoods are more preserved than in NYC and Boston.
Uh...Howard Beach, dude. And nobody ever said "poor." There is no white equivalent of Bedford-Stuyvesant in New York City. However, there are still quite a few working-class Irish and Italian neighborhoods in the city, especially in Staten Island.
Now if you want to see white people living the hard knock life, come to Philadelphia.
Howard Beach has million dollar homes! You can't buy anything for less than half a million in Howard Beach!
Yes, Howard Beach is still mostly Italian, but it defintely isn't working class. It's quite expensive.
Howard Beach used to be more working class, but it started to get upscale in the 1980's.
Staten Island also has many Italian neighborhoods, but they definitely aren't poor or even working class. Tottenville isn't remotely working class. Neither is Great Kills.
You are right about Philly, though. There are actually poor white neighborhoods in Northeast Philly and South Philly. I think it's because Philly has less gentrification and immigrants.
You are right about Philly, though. There are actually poor white neighborhoods in Northeast Philly and South Philly. I think it's because Philly has less gentrification and immigrants.
This is partly correct. Yes, there has been less gentrification in Philly than NYC. However, South Philly and the Northeast are becoming ever more diverse. Many of the whites in the Northeast are leaving, if they can, but many can't afford to so they're stuck.
I totally agree. Well, maybe in Bed Stuy you could for under 500k, but not Harlem.
But Bed Stuy still has lots of poor because of the projects. The homeowners in Bed Stuy are doing quite well in 2010.
Harlem also has projects, so it is mixed income too. But Harlem has much more advanced gentrification than Bed Stuy.
Nope...not even in Bed-Stuy. A friend of mine bought a brownstone, which needs modest renovation, to the tune of $650K. That was quite a bargain.
Most of the Italians in Howard Beach aren't balling out of control. They've just held on to their properties.
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