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View Poll Results: What type of city is more damaging to the environment?
Dense Cities 7 15.91%
Sprawl Cities 37 84.09%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-25-2010, 05:40 PM
 
Location: The City
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It's all relative. You have several cities in your region with bombed out dead zones at their core at levels unheard of in the sunbelt, surrounded by huge suburban sprawl suburbs.

Which is worse?

I quite like my cities core
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I quite like my cities core
I feel the same way about mine.
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:44 PM
 
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I quite like my cities core
So do I, its all a matter of preference. Some enjoy areas that are car dependant and sprawled and some do not.
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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So do I, its all a matter of preference. Some enjoy areas that are car dependant and sprawled and some do not.
We were talking about the respective cities core areas, not the suburbs.
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:48 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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This is a no-brainer.

Sprawl enables single family homes, which take up much more land that could otherwise be used for farming or other uses. It also enables a car culture, and cars are the worst in terms of efficiency of transportation (I mean you could carpool but honestly, 99% of all cars I see on the road stuck in traffic have 1 occupant, or 1 adult and some kids). Sprawl also requires more infrastructure per capita (more roads, more sanitation, more sewers, water mains, more electric grids, more parking lots, etc.), which just adds to the issue I raised earlier.

If people hadn't spread out after WWII then we'd likely see more people living in dense urban centers, commuting to work in trains, or buses, and living in highrises. We wouldn't have smog issues like we have today. We wouldn't have to put up with the suburbanites requiring their goddamn HUGE SUVs getting 2 mpg and making them seriously overweight in the process of driving everywhere.
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:22 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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This is a no-brainer.

Sprawl enables single family homes, which take up much more land that could otherwise be used for farming or other uses. It also enables a car culture, and cars are the worst in terms of efficiency of transportation (I mean you could carpool but honestly, 99% of all cars I see on the road stuck in traffic have 1 occupant, or 1 adult and some kids). Sprawl also requires more infrastructure per capita (more roads, more sanitation, more sewers, water mains, more electric grids, more parking lots, etc.), which just adds to the issue I raised earlier.

If people hadn't spread out after WWII then we'd likely see more people living in dense urban centers, commuting to work in trains, or buses, and living in highrises. We wouldn't have smog issues like we have today. We wouldn't have to put up with the suburbanites requiring their goddamn HUGE SUVs getting 2 mpg and making them seriously overweight in the process of driving everywhere.
Not that I'm saying what you are saying is wrong, but have you ever heard of the London Fog?

Pea soup fog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:52 PM
 
Location: ☀ ѕυnѕнιne ѕтaтe ☀
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Northern Density of course
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Old 04-26-2010, 01:55 AM
 
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This is a no-brainer.

Sprawl enables single family homes, which take up much more land that could otherwise be used for farming or other uses. It also enables a car culture, and cars are the worst in terms of efficiency of transportation (I mean you could carpool but honestly, 99% of all cars I see on the road stuck in traffic have 1 occupant, or 1 adult and some kids). Sprawl also requires more infrastructure per capita (more roads, more sanitation, more sewers, water mains, more electric grids, more parking lots, etc.), which just adds to the issue I raised earlier.

If people hadn't spread out after WWII then we'd likely see more people living in dense urban centers, commuting to work in trains, or buses, and living in highrises. We wouldn't have smog issues like we have today. We wouldn't have to put up with the suburbanites requiring their goddamn HUGE SUVs getting 2 mpg and making them seriously overweight in the process of driving everywhere.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Sprawl easily does more damage. Plus density is much more desirable than urban sprawl.
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