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No, I was just showing that there are nice areas of Gary. Miller(Beach) is essentially a community that was annexed into the city decades ago. Miller Beach - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well my original post was pointing out how downtown Gary is a wreck compared to downtown Flint. Yes, Miller Beach is the "safe" part of Gary. That's really the only part of Gary worth going to. The rest is an eyesore.
Well my original post was pointing out how downtown Gary is a wreck compared to downtown Flint. Yes, Miller Beach is the "safe" part of Gary. That's really the only part of Gary worth going to. The rest is an eyesore.
Perhaps, but it seems like a self contained community with its own Business Districts, that probably serves that side of town.
Also, I thought that there was some development in Downtown Gary with a casino and new baseball stadium?
What's so clear about it? Obviously you haven't seen much in the way of government subsidized housing. There is a difference between cookie cutter villa suburban homes that people purchase and the brightly colored two story homes in small lots all stacked right next to each other. I've seen these in many cities. They have pretty strict and rigid guidelines you have to follow to be able to live in them, and usually you must be below the poverty line to be able to live in them.
Maybe it isn't that way on the east coast. Then again even here in New York we use the term affordable but not subsidized.
That looks like a low level but working class neighborhood. Definitely not a "nice" place, but at least it's inhabited and all of the yards are mowed compared with a lot of East St. Louis that looks like, "Earth after Man" or something.
Sadly, the diversity only plays in so much. It is an unfortunate truth that in most cities across the country the higher the black population the more crime and murders there will be in that city. Camden, Flint, Gary, East St. Louis, and other dangerous small cities all have very high black populations. In California the scene is a bit different, it's usually relevant to very high Latino immigrant populations.
I thought the biggest group of people in Camden were Puerto Ricans.
Perhaps, but it seems like a self contained community with its own Business Districts, that probably serves that side of town.
Also, I thought that there was some development in Downtown Gary with a casino and new baseball stadium?
There are Casinos in Hammond and Whiting, Both along the Lakeshore, but I've heard nothing of a Casino in Gary itself. If it is, it's probably along the lakefront to the west, which isn't really helping the city if it's not in a primer area. In fact, arguably it's making it worse, helping the already bad addicts get dirt broke or shot. The Baseball stadium also doesn't do much ( if anything at all) for the city. They might as well just plow the whole city down.
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There are Casinos in Hammond and Whiting, Both along the Lakeshore, but I've heard nothing of a Casino in Gary itself. If it is, it's probably along the lakefront to the west, which isn't really helping the city if it's not in a primer area. In fact, arguably it's making it worse, helping the already bad addicts get dirt broke or shot. The Baseball stadium also doesn't do much ( if anything at all) for the city. They might as well just plow the whole city down.
I thought the biggest group of people in Camden were Puerto Ricans.
People subscribe to the notion of the blacker the city, the higher the murder rate when there's quite a few examples dispelling this notion. One in particular is Detroit, which is the only major city at least 75% black throughout the last 25 years while being at least 12% blacker than any other major city at the same time during the same period. Yet 2012 and 2013 were the only two years during the last 25 years that Detroit's murder rate was higher than any other major city.
My understanding of St. Louis is that it very much is criticized for its crime, and at a metro scale the crime there isn't nearly as bad as the city stats make it out to be. St. Louis has a dangerous rep, and the stats back this, but the metro area isn't that dangerous.
On the flipside, I don't think Indy is overly-criticized. Indy has a very high murder rate/tally and yet I almost never hear about Indy being mentioned when discussing dangerous cities.
You may be right, but a lot of the Indianapolis locals seem to think it's a "dangerous" city.
I'm not sure why you think that DC is criticized too harshly. But there are many of us who live here that think that it's new reputation for being this completely gentrified, safe city is nothing but hype.
In the early 1990's Washington D.C. was nicknamed the Murder Capital by many. Its murder rate and crime rate in the late 1980's and early 1990's was out of control. Of course the gentrification has probably lessened this, and the city is not without its crime, but it is nowhere near as bad as what it used to be, that much is undeniable.
Gary has got some other things going for it. I think the city received a grant to destroy tons of desolate homes, which may be a new beginning. It's just, if the new casino isn't in downtown Gary, it doesn't make anything look that much better, tbh. Hey, if they built a Casino on Broadway, that would change things a TON. Hopefully they do in the future.
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