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Old 04-03-2011, 03:03 PM
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Location: Oakland
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yeah SF's bad side is worse than most people outside of the Bay Area/Northern California realize. SF media deflection and stereotypes has pretty much ensured that...It's especially annoying when transplants who just moved to SF think they're experts on the city, and are convinced that SF has little crime.

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San Francisco is inaccurately portrayed to be a pristine city that is a playground for the rich and the liberal. This national assumption is pretty true for about a little bit more than half of the city. The remaining tucked away neighborhoods in southeast and central SF are easily some of the worst places to live in the United States. Social stratification along racial lines in SF has to be the worst in the nation. Blacks disproportionately represent the face of the extremely poor and downtrodden in SF more than any other city I can think of. Even Baltimore and DC have rich and upper middle class Blacks running the city. The predominantly Black district of Hunter's Point San Francisco is located on the most toxic waste dump in California. Non-coincidentally, Hunter's Point also has the highest infant mortality rate in California. Also, SF has one of the highest homicide rates for Blacks in the nation that is even higher than across the water in the notorious nearby Oakland, which is the fifth most dangerous city in America. Sadly, the projects in SF also have been ranked as the worst in the nation year after year. Many of these shoddy barracks built specifically for Black ship builders from the deep South during the WWII era are still standing. I think it is a little weird that the national media refuses to let the world know that what is quite possibly the roughest enclave on the West Coast is hidden away in the liberal faux-utopia perfect picture-esque jewel of the city of San Francisco.

A History of Bayview-Hunters Point, Part 2: Crime, Contamination, and Crisis | 21st Century Urban Solutions

Hunters View - not Sunnydale - ranks as S.F.'s worst complex - SFGate

S.F. more deadly than Oakland for blacks? - SFGate

Many corners of gritty SF neighborhoods like The Mission are also thoroughly unsafe and plagued with gang violence.

SF police respond to Mission gang violence surge - SFGate
And here's another gang-realted shooting in the mission, earlier this month. 50 rounds fired, hitting a crowded bar and restaraunt, injuring 5 people:

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"...The shooting happened at about 11 p.m. outside the bar, located in a busy section of 16th Street between Mission and Valencia streets.

Police said five men, all between the ages of 26 and 46, were hit by gunfire. A 36-year-old man’s wounds were considered life-threatening.

According to Gomez, the shooting began just after some customers left the bar.

“I understand there were two shooters, they were standing across the street at Mission National (Bank) and started shooting from there,” Gomez said. She said the shooters made their way as far as the middle of the street, firing off about 50 shots.

“When they started shooting, everybody hit the floor,” Gomez said.

“I guess they didn’t really care who they shot, because they shot my door, the Pancho Villa" - restaurant next door - "door got shot, and there was a car parked on the street that had bullets in it,” she said.

In addition to the victims who were shot outside, customers inside her bar were grazed by bullets, and possibly a cashier at Pancho Villa, according to Gomez...."

Mission district shooting may be gang related | Ari Burack | Crime | San Francisco Examiner
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Old 04-03-2011, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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San Jose is also supposedly one of the safest big cities in the nation. However, scenes like this speak otherwise If you aren't familiar with the territory stumbling on a neighborhood like this would not be a good look:


Most cities have hood like that.
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:05 AM
 
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San Jose is also supposedly one of the safest big cities in the nation. However, scenes like this speak otherwise If you aren't familiar with the territory stumbling on a neighborhood like this would not be a good look:


do not take what rappers say into account, most of them lies... They would make beverly hills look like a warzone if they rap about that place... They managed to make montreal look like afganistan...
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: the future
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do not take what rappers say into account, most of them lies... They would make beverly hills look like a warzone if they rap about that place... They managed to make montreal look like afganistan...


Only certain cities would allow "gangsters" of that calibur
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Old 06-02-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Chicago. people call it the murder capital of the US which is a bunch of BS. people always bring up the number of homocides, the the rate. if people brought up the homicide rate st. Louis, Detroit, and Flint would have a LARGER homicide rate than Chicago

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according to this list, Chicago isn't even in the top 100!

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Old 06-02-2014, 08:53 PM
 
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It's funny to me how San Jose is viewed today as a white suburban tech center. When I was growing up it was considered a Mexican gang land.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Orleans Parish, LA
Agreed! Come on back to the forum already, man!
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Chicago. people call it the murder capital of the US which is a bunch of BS. people always bring up the number of homocides, the the rate. if people brought up the homicide rate st. Louis, Detroit, and Flint would have a LARGER homicide rate than Chicago

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according to this list, Chicago isn't even in the top 100!
New Orleans has that problem, except the murder rate is extremely high. It too ranks outside of the top 100.
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do not take what rappers say into account, most of them lies... They would make beverly hills look like a warzone if they rap about that place... They managed to make montreal look like afganistan...
They might lie about what they do or did, but most of what they say is true about what goes on. At least rappers from Louisiana.

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Old 06-03-2014, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Agreed! Come on back to the forum already, man!

New Orleans has that problem, except the murder rate is extremely high. It too ranks outside of the 100.
No. That's definitely a mistake on the part of whoever created that list. New Orleans' 2013 murder rate was 41 per 100,000 which would rank it in the top 20 on that list.
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Indianapolis based upon statistics seems much rougher than its reputation as a white-collar, semi sun-belt city. I mean, last I checked it had the 13th highest rate of violent crime of a larger city in the country. And given Indianapolis is a city which merged with its county, large portions of the city are still lily-white suburbia, and presumably very safe. Meaning portions of the actual urban core must be very bad indeed.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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No. That's definitely a mistake on the part of whoever created that list. New Orleans' 2013 murder rate was 41 per 100,000 which would rank it in the top 20 on that list.
Murder rate is not the same as crime rate.
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