Is Ohio and Michigan really Midwest or Northern? (state, America, cons)

[maxposure]

Interesting question, but I'd say they are solidly Midwestern.

[Dncr]

They're both..haha. Michigan and Ohio are Northern States, and from there, they would be categorized as Midwestern States.

[BelieveInCleve]

I know for Ohio it's not all midwestern.
Here's a basic breakdown in the areas and what they're more like:
Cleveland/NE Ohio = NY state, Pennsylvania
Toledo area = Michigan/Detroit area
Cincinnati/SW Ohio = Kentucky/Appalachia
South/SE Ohio = Appalachia/West Virginia

The areas that are 100% midwestern are: Columbus/Central Ohio, Western Ohio, Springfield area, and the areas of NW Ohio that are further from Toledo. The Dayton area is mostly Midwestern, but with some southern/kentucky influence.

The states are both considered in the Midwest, but the sub-region in Great Lakes. The area of Ohio north of Columbus and all of Michigan are northern.

[west336]

^Thank you, much clearer!

[Colts]

Umm...Midwestern IS Northern, so they can't be one or the other.

[MidwestCruiser]

I would say we are both mid-western and northern.

[missRoxyhart]

I think the problem here is, are we talking about culture or geography? Ohio and Michigan are both geographically northern but I thought they were culturally part of the midwestern region. I always took northern to mean northeastern culturally. In my opinion, calling Ohio and Michigan northern is like calling California southern. It may be true geographically, but not culturally.

[14thandYou]

I didn't realize "northern" and "midwestern" were mutually exclusive descriptors.

[lahood000]

That's the problem in this country. Everybody stikll thinks and uses terms from the 1700's and the 1800's. This is stupid and rediculous in my opinion. If you take our country in terms of pie, split it up into 4 even sections and evenly spaceout everything Detroit, cleveland are in the Northeast or North.......They're in the eastern timezone too. There is nothing showing that they are in the midwest other than Ben franklin and george washington referring those areas back then as the midwest. Plus if I go south from Detroit city, straight south, I go directly into Windsor, Ontario.....How could a midwestern city be geographically NORTH from Canada. It just doesn't make sense. One question to end this. Did Christopher Columbos dicover america? Was it america or the west indies? Well i sure was our most eastern tip of the continental United States! If its a question of culture,Detroit and cleveland are as of 2010 not midwestern farm cities......I just think its time to move to today instead being lazy and staying in the times of the 1800's

[EastSideMKE]

North = Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Wisconsin

Midwest = Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Ohio and Wisconsin