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About Pittsburgh, I guess it is more connected to the Northeast. But being in the Rust Belt, I think most people instantly associate it with the Midwest, which is what people usually think of when they think of the Rust Belt. I know I did.
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Also the mega region known as ChiPitts really makes it seem like an integral portion of the Midwest while geographically it sits in the Northeast. It is heavily excluded from BosWash, then again so are Buffalo and Rochester.
Also the mega region known as ChiPitts really makes it seem like an integral portion of the Midwest while geographically it sits in the Northeast. It is heavily excluded from BosWash, then again so are Buffalo and Rochester.
I think this is an effect of the Appalachian mountains and the 100s of miles of rural area in between
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I think this is an effect of the Appalachian mountains and the 100s of miles of rural area in between
Definitely, in addition to the BosWash corridor comfortably resting on one major interstate highway as well. I-95 I believe, or is it another?
I found these three cities in this thread to be unique in their own aspects, they are cradles for two different regions and their own distinctive cultures. Another addition I could of had would be Cincinnati.
Pittsburgh is the largest metro in the Appalachians. It is Eastern with Midwest influences as well. For those unfamiliar with the Pittsburgh region you should go about an hour outside of the metro to see all of the smaller towns, cities, and villages in Appalachia. Around there they call the them yinzers. Fayette County and Greene County are both on right on top of Pittsburgh and the demographics there are 100% Appalachian. Pittsburgh itself is a melting pot of cultural and regional influences, though. The rural areas are stuck in a statist time warp for the most part, though.
How do you figure that KC is Southern? The closest Southern town is hours away
The Ozarks/Upper South cultural influences are very close to the KC metro. If you venture a few tiers of counties south of KC you will notice more Ozarks influences along with a lot of rural and small town poverty that tends to be more common in the upper South compared to the core of the Midwest.
Pittsburgh is the largest metro in the Appalachians. It is Eastern with Midwest influences as well. For those unfamiliar with the Pittsburgh region you should go about an hour outside of the metro to see all of the smaller towns, cities, and villages in Appalachia. Around there they call the them yinzers. Fayette County and Greene County are both on right on top of Pittsburgh and the demographics there are 100% Appalachian. Pittsburgh itself is a melting pot of cultural and regional influences, though. The rural areas are stuck in a statist time warp for the most part, though.
Pittsburgh is becoming an oasis in the middle of a downtrodden region. Armstrong, Fayette and Greene Counties all need serious help economically, and the former two have a negative effect on the Pittsburgh MSA's demographics. Even Westmoreland County is a mixed bag, becoming richer toward the west and poorer toward the east. In the future, I expect Allegheny, Butler and Washington Counties to become the three most important counties in the Pittsburgh region. Eastern Pennsylvania is quickly gaining clout at the expense of western Pennsylvania, but the presence of Pittsburgh mitigates this somewhat.
Anyway, when I lived in Pittsburgh, I had never heard anybody refer to it as a Midwestern city. The only thing it ever really had in common with Midwestern cities is a heavy industrial presence, but that's changed in recent decades, as have its demographics, especially when compared with places like Cleveland and Detroit. These days I'd argue that Pittsburgh more closely resembles Baltimore than Cleveland. Due to demographic changes, Pittsburgh's Northeastern attributes are being strengthened while its Midwestern attributes are being weakened.
The Ozarks/Upper South cultural influences are very close to the KC metro. If you venture a few tiers of counties south of KC you will notice more Ozarks influences along with a lot of rural and small town poverty that tends to be more common in the upper South compared to the core of the Midwest.
Same can be said for St. Louis, but most people don't consider it Southern. Just because the South it nearby doesn't mean it's Southern.
About Pittsburgh, I guess it is more connected to the Northeast. But being in the Rust Belt, I think most people instantly associate it with the Midwest, which is what people usually think of when they think of the Rust Belt. I know I did.
True.
I never thought any of Pennsylvania was in the Midwest. To me, the Midwest starts almost immediately over the Ohio border.
But I think there are some midwestern elements in the area, but not enough to make it a Midwestern city. It's more of a northeastern city set in the Allegheny Plateau (a part of the Appalachians...just thought I would call it the precise term..lol).
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