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Only 15 miles outside of St. Louis I-70 turns into redneck land real fast.
Actually, from what I remember, there's plenty of development for a good 40 miles or so west on I-70 from downtown St. Louis. Basically, it's built up all the way out to Wentzville. Beyond Wentzville is where it gets more rural.
As for the degrees of Southernness in Missouri, Kansas City, St. Louis, and areas north of I-70 don't feel Southern at all to me. I've never been to southeastern Missouri, but I didn't get even a remotely Southern vibe until I went south of Bagnell Dam -- and even then, it's just a little bit. I imagine the real "Southern" parts of Missouri are south of roughly a Cape Girardeau-to-Joplin line.
I've noticed that a lot of people have an inflated sense of what the South's territory is. For example, I've seen Baltimore, Cincinnati and St. Louis (and now Kansas City) described as cities with Southern flavor, which isn't true at all, as far as I'm concerned. You want an idea of what the South's territory is? Draw a line from Beaumont, TX to Paris, TX to Muskogee, OK to Joplin, MO to Cairo, IL to Louisville, KY to Lexington, KY to Charleston, WV to Charlottesville, VA to Salisbury, MD. Everything south and east of that line is the South.
I've noticed that a lot of people have an inflated sense of what the South's territory is. For example, I've seen Baltimore, Cincinnati and St. Louis (and now Kansas City) described as cities with Southern flavor, which isn't true at all, as far as I'm concerned. You want an idea of what the South's territory is? Draw a line from Beaumont, TX to Paris, TX to Muskogee, OK to Joplin, MO to Cairo, IL to Louisville, KY to Lexington, KY to Charleston, WV to Charlottesville, VA to Salisbury, MD. Everything south and east of that line is the South.
why split the bluegrass region in half? cynthiana is not a different cultural region from richmond and is certainly southern culturally. id say go louisville to owenton and then on to charleston wv. although if one is going to including joplin and cairo i think youve got to include maysville ky as well
but i agree with it for the most part and only disagree with it by about 40 or 50 miles in the bluegrass region but the rest is right, assuming you are describing the south-east. when talking about the south as a cultural region its usually good to include the western/plains south as well, the area west of what youve described in TX and OK, ending near new mexico. its southern culturally but not climactically or in appearance.
There is NOTHING southern about KC GraniteStater. Do you have any idea what you are talking about? I would say places like StLouis and Baltimore have more "southern" influence than KC and I would hardly call those towns southern.
Beleive it or not I've spent a great deal of time in all 3 cities, so I feel qualified to judge.
Louisville- 60% midwestern, 40% southern.
Kansas City- 80% midwestern, 20% Ozarkian.
Pittsburgh- 100% Yinzer (come on man. pittsburgh's claim to fame, is it's an island of culture unto
its own.)
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