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That has to be very unpleasant for those living in Philadelphia when people jokingly/accidentally refer to it as NYC's 6th borough.
I really don't think anyone in Philly or NY really think of it that way - Both maintain their own identity - though there are more and more people that do commute from Philly to NYC
The times article more referenced the proximity and similar urban feel to Manhatten - plus the number of NYers moving to CC
Philly for the first time in many years actually recieved more people moving to Philly from NY than the opposite
If it happens then all the other places with similar or closer commuter ties will also be combined.
Chicago will spread from Middle of Wisconsin down to most of Northern Indiana and west to Iowa.
Los Angeles will claim everything south of Bakersfield and add Las Vegas. Why not stop there-maybe we can throw in Honolulu too.
San Francisco will annex basically all of Northern California, Northern Nevada and much of Southern Oregon.
Miami, Orlando and Tampa suddenly become a huge single entity.
San Antonio and Austin are a done deal.
The Carolinas become one CSA. Heck, maybe Atlanta will overlap into several states and create a massive CSA. Yikes. Atlanta-Charlotte-Nashville(how's that for huge). LOL
And so on.
You see there isnt going to be a special circumstance by which only the NE would be allowed to combine. It would have to apply to everywhere.
If it happens then all the other places with similar or closer commuter ties will also be combined.
Chicago will spread from Middle of Wisconsin down to most of Northern Indiana and west to Iowa.
Los Angeles will claim everything south of Bakersfield and add Las Vegas. Why not stop there-maybe we can throw in Honolulu too.
San Francisco will annex basically all of Northern California, Northern Nevada and much of Southern Oregon.
Miami, Orlando and Tampa suddenly become a huge single entity.
San Antonio and Austin are a done deal.
The Carolinas become one CSA. Heck, maybe Atlanta will overlap into several states and create a massive CSA. Yikes. Atlanta-Charlotte-Nashville(how's that for huge). LOL
And so on.
But you do realize distance wise SJ and SF are only one mile closer than NYC and Philly
the other regions you referenced are much further distance wize
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If it happens then all the other places with similar or closer commuter ties will also be combined.
Chicago will spread from Middle of Wisconsin down to most of Northern Indiana and west to Iowa.
Los Angeles will claim everything south of Bakersfield and add Las Vegas. Why not stop there-maybe we can throw in Honolulu too.
San Francisco will annex basically all of Northern California, Northern Nevada and much of Southern Oregon.
Miami, Orlando and Tampa suddenly become a huge single entity.
San Antonio and Austin are a done deal.
The Carolinas become one CSA. Heck, maybe Atlanta will overlap into several states and create a massive CSA. Yikes. Atlanta-Charlotte-Nashville(how's that for huge). LOL
And so on.
You see there isnt going to be a special circumstance by which only the NE would be allowed to combine. It would have to apply to everywhere.
They really are, DFW is going to have another Metroplex type of rivalry next census.
Say what?
NYC to Philadelphia 93 Miles
SF to San Jose 47 Miles
NY and Philadelphia are not even close to being like SF and SJ.
First of all, the density for the entire drive from NY to Philly is NOTHING like this:
There is an exchange of about 20% of all commuters between the SF MSA and the SJ MSA. For NY and Philly its not even 1%.
Hundreds of thousands of people a day travel between the SF MSA and SJ MSA. There is no comparison whatsoever.
I think people are confused on how MSAs and CSAs are made.
NY and Philly are more like SF and Sacramento.
SF to Sacramento 87 Miles
NYC to Philadelphia 93 Miles
Also the driving distance is increased as 95 is not cohesive and also goes around the area that maintains density - between NJTPK exits 8a and 6 it goes inland into more rural NJ and adds driving miles - this takes a path away from the developed region of NJ - there are almost as many people that live in the 46 miles between these two cities as live in the whole SF CSA
Your source is incorrect if your talking city to city.
I have driven NY-Philly about 5 times and SF-SJ about a gazillion times and they are not even remotely the same drive time.
According to Google Maps:
SF to SJ: 55 Minutes by Car
NY to Philly: 1hr 50 Minutes by Car.
Now I will agree that the fringe suburbs of each are very close relatively speaking but you don't see the sort of interdependence that would warrant combining the NY and Philly CSAs.
Philadelphia happens to be an incredibly strong job center and cultural center on its own.
Also the driving distance is increased as 95 is not cohesive and also goes around the area that maintains density - between NJTPK exits 8a and 6 it goes inland into more rural NJ and adds driving miles - this takes a path away from the developed region of NJ - there are almost as many people that live in the 46 miles between these two cities as live in the whole SF CSA
There could 100 Million people in that 46-mile stretch but if the development, regional interdependence and commuter numbers are not there then all those people are meaningless as far as attempting to combine 2 of the strongest independent CSAs in the nation.
I just don't see it, but then what do I know-the rules change all the time.
Just keep in mind, if the rules are loosened then they are loosened for everyone and if NY and Philadelphia get to marry then there are going to a bunch of huge weddings across America.
LOL
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