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Old 05-23-2010, 03:21 PM
 
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would be cool, kind of like greater tokyo?
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Old 05-23-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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would be cool, kind of like greater tokyo?
Yeah pretty much.
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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So what would we call it? The NJ Metropolitan area? That's what I already call this region.
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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Yeah pretty much.
it actually already is larger... but greater tokyo is always touted as 35m, greater new york should also be...

Greater Tokyo:
"A 2007 UN estimate puts the population at 35,676,000,[4] making it the world's most populous metropolitan area. It covers an area of approximately 13,500 km² (5,200 mi²),[5] giving it a population density of 2,642 person/km². It is the second largest in the world in terms of built-up or urban function landmass at 7,800 km² (3,000 mi²).[6] Only the urban area surrounding New York City, at 8,700 km², is larger."

Greater tokyo is actually 3 prefectures, sound similar to ny/nj/philly? Hrmm.

Tokyo Prefecture (Urban) 12,770,000 1,457.3 8,762.8 Kanagawa Prefecture (Urban) 8,877,000 2,191.1 4,051.4 Saitama Prefecture (Urban) 6,997,000 2,867.53 2,440.1 Chiba Prefecture (West Bay) 4,829,000 1,788.94 2,699.4
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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it actually already is larger... but greater tokyo is always touted as 35m, greater new york should also be...

Greater Tokyo:
"A 2007 UN estimate puts the population at 35,676,000,[4] making it the world's most populous metropolitan area. It covers an area of approximately 13,500 km² (5,200 mi²),[5] giving it a population density of 2,642 person/km². It is the second largest in the world in terms of built-up or urban function landmass at 7,800 km² (3,000 mi²).[6] Only the urban area surrounding New York City, at 8,700 km², is larger."

Greater tokyo is actually 3 prefectures, sound similar to ny/nj/philly? Hrmm.

Tokyo Prefecture (Urban) 12,770,000 1,457.3 8,762.8 Kanagawa Prefecture (Urban) 8,877,000 2,191.1 4,051.4 Saitama Prefecture (Urban) 6,997,000 2,867.53 2,440.1 Chiba Prefecture (West Bay) 4,829,000 1,788.94 2,699.4
Yeah actually a fun fact is that Tokyo is not technically a city in a sense, it's a combination of prefectures that come together, which is why it's population is nearly always disputed, since it's exact boundaries haven't been drawn in.

Most put greater Tokyo at 36 million.

You're right. Nice work man.
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Old 05-23-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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I do it at least once a week (actually to the Hyatt in Jersey City if you know where that is, great view of manhatten there built on a dock in the hudson right at the entrance to the Holland tunnel)- google maps takes you way out of the most direct route - while i agree the drive is further than the closest point (at 46 miles) From the Betsy Ross bridge to Holland tunnel is 72 miles (road miles) and can be done in 65 minutes (only averaging 75-80 on the NJ turnpike which is moving with traffic and because I also use a couple of cut throughs that have traffic lights in South Jersey rt 73) But if where the Holland comes into Manhatten is not considered the core part of NY I am not sure what is. The only bad part is it is $32 in tolls round-trip

From the Betsy Ross to outer bridge crossing and perth-amboy into NYC it is only 64 miles driving and 60 minutes (from Philly to NYC)
There is no way the drive from the Betsy Ross Bridge (or anywhere in Philadelphia) to the Holland Tunnel takes only 5 minutes longer than the drive to the Outerbridge Crossing.

The Betsy Ross Bridge also is a few miles northeast of Center City Philadelphia.
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Old 05-23-2010, 07:23 PM
 
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There is no way the drive from the Betsy Ross Bridge (or anywhere in Philadelphia) to the Holland Tunnel takes only 5 minutes longer than the drive to the Outerbridge Crossing.

The Betsy Ross Bridge also is a few miles northeast of Center City Philadelphia.

exit 12 vs 14a - plus 4 miles

287 is an additional 5 miles to outer bridge

14a is 4 miles past 12 and to holland is another 4.2 miles

net is ~4 miles

pretty simple math


betsy ross is 3.6 miles from 676 which would be center city
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Old 05-23-2010, 07:37 PM
 
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To get to the Outerbridge Crossing you get off the Turnpike at Exit 10 (in Fords, NJ), which is about 25 miles from the Holland Tunnel.
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Old 05-23-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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To get to the Outerbridge Crossing you get off the Turnpike at Exit 10 (in Fords, NJ), which is about 25 miles from the Holland Tunnel.

You are right I am thinking 12 for Pulaski to Staten
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Old 05-23-2010, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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You are right I am thinking 12 for Pulaski to Staten
I'm going to send you a Rand McNally map for Xmas. Exit 12 is for Carteret, NJ. You can get to Staten Island via the Outerbridge Xing (Exit 10) or the Goethals (Exit 13). The Pulaski Skyway goes between Newark and Jersey City and is not directly accessible to the Turnpike.
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