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I'm going to send you a Rand McNally map for Xmas. Exit 12 is for Carteret, NJ. You can get to Staten Island via the Outerbridge Xing (Exit 10) or the Goethals (Exit 13). The Pulaski Skyway goes between Newark and Jersey City and is not directly accessible to the Turnpike.
well they all run together up there, even though i drive through every week
still even 10 to 14 is only 10-12 minutes and 14 to Holland is about 4 miles
from 95 to Betsy ross to 90 to 73 to exit 4 is about 7 minutes
4 to 10 is about 45 minutes
I completely disagree on 25 mins from 10 to holland
I can get from 10 to Morristown NJ in 30 minutes, much further
odd part is 95 isnt even the same road in this area, you leave it to pick it up again
well they all run together up there, even though i drive through every week
still even 10 to 14 is only 10-12 minutes and 14 to Holland is about 4 miles
from 95 to Betsy ross to 90 to 73 to exit 4 is about 7 minutes
4 to 10 is about 45 minutes
I completely disagree on 25 mins from 10 to holland
I can get from 10 to Morristown NJ in 30 minutes, much further
odd part is 95 isnt even the same road in this area, you leave it to pick it up again
25 miles. If it takes you fewer minutes, good for you.
Morristown is in a different direction. I think Exit 10 to Morristown is doable in 30 minutes. It's about 35 miles up Route 287. I used to commute from Piscataway to Morristown, and during rush hour it took an hour.
Im ok with a NY-Philly CSMA but NY,NNJ, and CT please stay out of our pleasant South Jersey beaches like Cape May,Wildwood Crest,Stone Harbor,Avalon and Sea Isle. No more Snookies or J Wow South of Atlantic City. Thank you for your cooperation regarding this matter.
Im ok with a NY-Philly CSMA but NY and CT stay out of our pleasant South Jersey beaches like Cape May,Wildwood Crest,Stone Harbor,Avalon and Sea Isle. No more Snookies or J Wow South of Atlantic City. Thank you for your cooperation regarding this matter.
When NYC-Philly do merge Im going to request to the BEA that there be a special exemption that Philly gets naming rights. The Philadelphia-NYC CMSA seeing how Philadelphia is the original city and all, the cradle of our nation,all roads led from Philadlephia.
Technically one could argue that the entire country is a suburb of Philadlephia.
The Philadelphia-NYC area. It has a nice ring to it, does it not?
Im ok with a NY-Philly CSMA but NY,NNJ, and CT please stay out of our pleasant South Jersey beaches like Cape May,Wildwood Crest,Stone Harbor,Avalon and Sea Isle. No more Snookies or J Wow South of Atlantic City. Thank you for your cooperation regarding this matter.
When NYC-Philly do merge Im going to request to the BEA that there be a special exemption that Philly gets naming rights. The Philadelphia-NYC CMSA seeing how Philadelphia is the original city and all, the cradle of our nation,all roads led from Philadlephia.
Technically one could argue that the entire country is a suburb of Philadlephia.
The Philadelphia-NYC area. It has a nice ring to it, does it not?
quite a bit of "green space ruralness" going on when one looks at that 95 freeway drive down to philly
add to that the nearly 100 mile distance=no way
But 95 does not take the shortest route nor does it come close to the more densly populated areas west in NJ.
95 and the NJ Turnpike (sometimes the same) were retro-fitted after a lot of urban areas were already developed. That route (NJ Turnpike) by-passes the major developed areas that connect PA into NJ. That gives a very misleading view on the developed cohesion.
Also as the crow flies it is 46 miles from Phildadelphia to the closest NYC border (Staten island), 57 miles to Brooklyn, and 63 to Manhatten
look at Rainrocks urban density map above - the areas connect completely and actually with a wider width than do DC and Baltimore (already joined) which can also be seen on the map.
The NJ Turmpike is pretty far east of the developed portion that connects these two and much of it between exits 4 and 9 on the NJ Turnpike are in the white space on that map. It gives a very misleading visual as it leaves the more developed area for most of that journey and adds many road miles. The NJ Turnpike was routed to serve NJ not the connection of the two metros; it actually bypasses most of Metro Philly and links back up with 95 South of Wiilmington DE. That drive is extremly misleading as to the developed areas that connect these two.
Last edited by kidphilly; 05-24-2010 at 11:18 AM..
Most people won't agree with my following point: I think when it comes to equating distance between NYC and Philadelphia, it's best to associate Staten Island with suburban NYC, just as you would any county in Northern New Jersey, even if Staten Island is technically New York City. The only difference between Middlesex County NJ and Staten Island is that you can pump your own gas and buy beer in a 7-eleven in Staten Island. The psychology of the Outerbridge Crossing and the Goethals Bridge lend a quality of isolation to Staten Island, but really should be part of New Jersey. It's zoned much more like suburban NJ than NYC. In contrast, Hudson County NJ is more like Manhattan. I think the poster PBergen came closest to explaining this, when it comes to reaching central business districts between the two cities. Similarly, even though NE Philly runs up to Woodhaven Blvd, if you've driven through that neighborhood, it feels more like Bensalem, the last suburb before Philly. I tend to think of Philly beginning in earnest after the Cottman Road exit, about 5 miles south on I-95.
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Exit 12 is for Carteret, NJ. You can get to Staten Island via the Outerbridge Xing (Exit 10) or the Goethals (Exit 13). The Pulaski Skyway goes between Newark and Jersey City and is not directly accessible to the Turnpike. 
