What's the most liberal southern state? (map, population, people, cons)

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by jluke65780

Because the states I named have more than just a few progressive areas spread around through the state. What offsets Texas is the rather large rural population within the state. Texas would probably be a swing state by now if you cut off anything west of 35.

But what if most of the state stays in one Area?

Originally Posted by jluke65780

Exactly. I see it like this; Dallas, Houston, and Austin are just as liberal as Atlanta. That alone should at least place us on Georgia's level; if not higher. Throw in San Antonio which is moderate, and with all that added together. We shouldn't be placed behind places like VA,NC, and GA. It makes no sense.

Percentage, not size by that conclusion Texas will be more conservative and liberal at the same time. Georgia has a history of going for more "liberial" democratic than Texas, I didn't know bill and Jimmy were conservative democratic. ) I Don't believe Texas would go for a liberail democrate for presidency even if he or she was from Texas ) Also Georgia is not trying to fix a perceive liberal bias LOL in school texts books, and openly saying their adding conservatism as a balance.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

But what if most of the state stays in one Area?

Percentage, not size by that conclusion Texas will be more conservative and liberal at the same time. Georgia has a history of going for more "liberial" democratic than Texas, I didn't know bill and Jimmy were conservative democratic. ) I Don't believe Texas would go for a liberail democrate for presidency even if he or she was from Texas ) Also Georgia is not trying to fix a perceive liberal bias LOL in school texts books, and openly saying their adding conservatism as a balance.

Well that's why those people that made those rules have been voted out in Texas. It's just too bad they won't leave until their terms are up in January. I honestly believe Texas has the potential to be more liberal than Georgia because there will be five urban areas in Texas compared to one in Georgia.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by Spade

Well that's why those people that made those rules have been voted out in Texas. It's just too bad they won't leave until their terms are up in January. I honestly believe Texas has the potential to be more liberal than Georgia because there will be five urban areas in Texas compared to one in Georgia.

Percentage, not size. In addition to what you said Texas is also 5 times the size and has over 5 times as much rual area, with being less 3x times the population of Georgia.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

I didn't know Bill and Jimmy were conservative democratic.

That's because they're not. No such thing exists anymore. The last one arguably was Joseph Lieberman, and he was basically exiled from the party for his support of the War in Iraq.

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

Percentage, not size. In addition to what you said Texas is also 5 times the size and has over 5 times as much rual area, with being less 3x times the population of Georgia.

However, your logic makes no sense when Texas offers more urban areas than Georgia. Life in Georgia exists outside of Atlanta, and I'm sure you guys have a few other liberal areas than Atlanta (I'm assuming Athens and Savannah (I guess)), but those don't compare to the mix of Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Each being significantly bigger and more prominent than the cites outside of Atlanta.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by jluke65780

However, your logic makes no sense when Texas offers more urban areas than Georgia. Life in Georgia exists outside of Atlanta, and I'm sure you guys have a few other liberal areas than Atlanta (I'm assuming Athens and Savannah (I guess)), but those don't compare to the mix of Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Each being significantly bigger and more prominent than the cites outside of Atlanta.

Yes it does, my point is! The only thing your really telling me is Texas is bigger, with in the same area as Texas you fit Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh and Greensboro. Seriously. Georgia is about the size of East Texas including the southeast. and it's like me saying, Life in East Texas exists outside of Houston and I'm sure you guys have a few other liberal areas than Houston assuming Beaumont and Tyler (I guess)

Yes Texas has more liberial urban areas than Georgia, but Texas also has more conservative suburbs, smaller towns and etc then georgia. Percentage not size by your logic Texas is more Conservative and liberal. ) by share Georgia is little more liberial than Texas, and actually has a change of becoming a swing state. GA went twice for 2 hard liberal Democrat "not the dog blue democrat" liberals like Bill and Jimmy, and Obama only lost by 4%. The state was consider a battle ground state that lead McCain. Texas was just McCain for the taking, Obama lost Texas by more than 10%.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

Yes it does, my point is! The only thing your really telling me is Texas is bigger, with in the same area as Texas you fit Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh and Greensboro. Seriously. Georgia is about the size of East Texas including the southeast. and it's like me saying, Life in East Texas exists outside of Houston and I'm sure you guys have a few other liberal areas than Houston assuming Beaumont and Tyler (I guess)

Yes Texas has more liberial urban areas than Georgia, but Texas also has more conservative suburbs, smaller towns and etc then georgia. Percentage not size by your logic Texas is more Conservative and liberal. ) by share Georgia is little more liberial than Texas, and actually has a change of becoming a swing state. GA went twice for 2 hard liberal Democrat "not the dog blue democrat" liberals like Bill and Jimmy, and Obama only lost by 4%. The state was consider a battle ground state that lead McCain. Texas was just McCain for the taking, Obama lost Texas by more than 10%.

Obama lost Texas 55-45 in a state that people thought he wouldn't even get 35% of the vote in that state and the democrats didn't spend any money in it. It wasn't considered a battleground state either and Obama and the Democrats did very well in that election. And while you're throwing that Georgia voted for Clinton. Texas nearly did themselves. Twice. Jluke is right.

Also, while Texas does have a larger rural population than Georgia as well as all states. The percentage of rural citizens in Texas is far lower than Georgia. While Savannah and Athens are liberal and democratic areas themselves. It doesn't touch what Texas has in Austin. If the democrats ever become aggressive in the suburbs, than Texas will be going democratic and the republicans will be pretty much become the smaller party in the state. But that's a tall order for the democrats. Texas is still a republican conservative state because of the suburbs

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

Yes it does, my point is! The only thing your really telling me is Texas is bigger, with in the same area as Texas you fit Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh and Greensboro. Seriously. Georgia is about the size of East Texas including the southeast. and it's like me saying, Life in East Texas exists outside of Houston and I'm sure you guys have a few other liberal areas than Houston assuming Beaumont and Tyler (I guess)

You'd have a valid point if the states population was scattered equally throughout the state, but the majority of the states population lives in the Texas Triangle; which is about the same size as the state of Georgia.

[JimmyJohnWilson]

Originally Posted by nortonguy

I'm not including the state of Maryland in this thread as southern. I'm going to say it's between Virginia, Georgia, Florida, and North Carolina..

this might tell you a little bit, shows what percentage of white voters in each state voted democrat.

[clean_polo]

^ That is a good map and pretty much shows that Florida is the most liberal/democratic southern state. Think about it, most of the white people voted for Obama, you know most of the minorities voted for Obama as well.