Is Cleveland Midwest or East (Columbus, Cincinnati: homes, wedding, live)

[CookieSkoon]

Originally Posted by CubanfromMiami

Isn't the Rust Belt considered Midwest?

Not all of it. Buffalo and Pittsburgh are markers of the rust belt and they are in the North-east.

[detroitlove]

Originally Posted by MN55

You can split Midwest/Great Lakes cities into three categories:

1) Minneapolis, Des Moines, Madison, Omaha, Kansas City, Fargo

2) Chicago, Milwaukee, Green Bay, Duluth, Cleveland, Detroit, Buffalo

3) St Louis, Springfield IL, Cincinati, Columbus, Dayton

A city in one category feels quite different than cities in the other two but they're all midwestern (except Buffalo but it's still similar to the cities in its category)

isn't buffalo east? instead of midwest

[Katarina Witt]

Buffalo is in New York, that most eastern of eastern states.

[GhettoKC]

Buffalo is probably the most eastern city there is..

[andrew61]

Cleveland is Midwest, but just barely, and with a strong northeastern influence.

The west side of town feels more Midwestern to me, while parts of the East Side -- in particular the Heights area plus the affluent suburbs just to the east of it -- feel more eastern.

[northstar22]

I'm from Michigan, and I always used to think of myself as a Midwesterner, and considered Michigan and Northern Ohio to be in the Midwest. After moving to the Great Plains area of Minnesota and experiencing the true Midwest, I've realized just how Northeastern Michigan (and Ohio) are. Those states are in the Eastern time zone, have high population densities, lean left politically. Out here, everything is centered around the two "Fs": farming and family. Everything is much slower paced out here, and even the Twin Cities metro doesn't run at the frenetic pace of Detroit, Cleveland or Chicago.

Back to the OPs question, is Cleveland Midwest? I'd have to say no. It's a Northeastern city with Midwest influences, much like Detroit or Syracuse. I have a hard time calling anything east of Chicago "Midwest." To me, the true Midwest includes the Dakotas, eastern Montana, Nebraska, northern Kansas, Iowa, extreme northern Missouri, Minnesota, Wisconsin, the UP of Michigan, northern Illinois and maybe Northwest Indiana near Chicago.

Cleveland is definitely Eastern. It's far more like Buffalo, Syracuse or Pittsburgh than Bismarck, Omaha or Sioux Falls, places I would consider to be truly Midwest. Northeast with a Midwest flair -- not NY or Boston, but certainly not Minot or Sioux City. I think "Great Lakes" is the best term for that zone running from Central NY to Michigan.

[northstar22]

Great post. Here's my thoughts (in bold):

Originally Posted by MN55

You can split Midwest/Great Lakes cities into three categories:

1) Minneapolis, Des Moines, Madison, Omaha, Kansas City, Fargo - The heart of the Midwest. You can throw in Sioux Falls, Bismarck and Rapid City.

2) Chicago, Milwaukee, Green Bay, Duluth, Cleveland, Detroit, Buffalo - Great Lakes, but I don't really think Duluth fits with this group.

3) St Louis, Springfield IL, Cincinati, Columbus, Dayton - Almost Dixie, y'all.

A city in one category feels quite different than cities in the other two but they're all midwestern (except Buffalo but it's still similar to the cities in its category)

[detroitlove]

Originally Posted by kazoopilot

I'm from Michigan, and I always used to think of myself as a Midwesterner, and considered Michigan and Northern Ohio to be in the Midwest. After moving to the Great Plains area of Minnesota and experiencing the true Midwest, I've realized just how Northeastern Michigan (and Ohio) are. Those states are in the Eastern time zone, have high population densities, lean left politically. Out here, everything is centered around the two "Fs": farming and family. Everything is much slower paced out here, and even the Twin Cities metro doesn't run at the frenetic pace of Detroit, Cleveland or Chicago.

Back to the OPs question, is Cleveland Midwest? I'd have to say no. It's a Northeastern city with Midwest influences, much like Detroit or Syracuse. I have a hard time calling anything east of Chicago "Midwest." To me, the true Midwest includes the Dakotas, eastern Montana, Nebraska, northern Kansas, Iowa, extreme northern Missouri, Minnesota, Wisconsin, the UP of Michigan, northern Illinois and maybe Northwest Indiana near Chicago.

Cleveland is definitely Eastern. It's far more like Buffalo, Syracuse or Pittsburgh than Bismarck, Omaha or Sioux Falls, places I would consider to be truly Midwest. Northeast with a Midwest flair -- not NY or Boston, but certainly not Minot or Sioux City. I think "Great Lakes" is the best term for that zone running from Central NY to Michigan.

Detroit is in no way Northeastern with a midwest influence. We are midwest...point, blank, period

[northstar22]

Come to Minnesota (or South Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska) and you may change your mind.

[goat314]

Originally Posted by kazoopilot

Come to Minnesota (or South Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska) and you may change your mind.

I think living way up in Minnesota gives you a more skewed view of what the Midwest is. One post you said Cincinnati and St. Louis are Southeastern cities and Chicago was the lower Midwest.