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Old 11-18-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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I keep hearing more and more about new offices here and new offices there, new apartments here and new apartments there... no trouble filling them either...

Who else feels Cleveland is going to be the Chicago of the early 21st century? Maybe not SUCH an explosive city, but it's getting there!

I'm proud, guys. Keep it up.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Well Idk yet I mean we are making progress and seem to be turning into a public transportation city but I don't see where the offices are getting filled especially since Eation Corp. Is going to Chagrin Highlands (Even though Cleveland Owns that land) but the residential I can see but I will be watching what happens these next few months to see if we can keep momentum especially after the Recession ends. Here's to hoping your right
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH USA / formerly Chicago for 20 years
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Who else feels Cleveland is going to be the Chicago of the early 21st century?
If it is, it's got a LONG way to go...
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Old 11-19-2011, 12:53 AM
 
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Well Cleveland metro unemployment vs. Chicago metro unemployment seems to show Cleveland ahead in that department...
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Old 11-19-2011, 12:58 AM
 
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Also, I hope Cleveland doesn't duplicate Chicago's pretentiousness...
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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Also, I hope Cleveland doesn't duplicate Chicago's pretentiousness...
Yes! Let's allow Cleveland to be Cleveland! This "Great Lakes City" is once again forging ahead on its own terms, and its success will be add tremendously to Ohio's success.
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Old 11-19-2011, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Well, if true I'm very happy to see Cleveland making a comeback. Now if somehow Detroit can find its niche, we'll see a true regeneration of the traditional American city.
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Old 11-19-2011, 06:58 AM
 
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We do have a long way to go. I walked down Euclid yesterday on my way to the CSU game from the federal building. Looked for a place to eat, all I saw was abandoned buildings from E. 9th damn near to Playhouse Square. There are pockets of excitement here and there (E. 4th, Warehouse District, Tremont) but most of downtown is a ghost town at night. The new waterfront development and the casino and Flats revitalization will help somewhat, but until they eliminate the roving bands of homeless and undesirables, and fix the schools, families will never move downtown.
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Old 11-19-2011, 07:05 AM
 
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If it is, it's got a LONG way to go...
Yes.
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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We do have a long way to go. I walked down Euclid yesterday on my way to the CSU game from the federal building. Looked for a place to eat, all I saw was abandoned buildings from E. 9th damn near to Playhouse Square. There are pockets of excitement here and there (E. 4th, Warehouse District, Tremont) but most of downtown is a ghost town at night. The new waterfront development and the casino and Flats revitalization will help somewhat, but until they eliminate the roving bands of homeless and undesirables, and fix the schools, families will never move downtown.
Downtown doesn't focus on families, it's mostly a destination and a place where younger people, singles, and empty nesters live. Families don't make up a significant population in most cities' downtowns since most cities usually have poor schools. Cleveland does have a long way to go but the point is it's getting there. Sure we only have some scattered pockets of excitement now but remember when there were virtually no pockets just a few years ago? Cleveland's been hit with problems harder than most cities, it can only improve little by little.

I believe Cleveland's starting to embrace urbanity again. The neighborhoods that actually increased in population and development are the walkable ones fully served by rail and transit (Downtown, UC, Ohio City, Little Italy, etc), even RTA is expanding service because of increased ridership, these are little big steps forward for a city plagued by suburbanization and it's starting somewhere. Also while Chicago was great for the time I lived there, I don't want Cleveland to become another Chicago and I'm quite happy it's not. A lot of people want Cleveland to copy its character from other cities, Cleveland has its own special character and that in itself should be enough to push the city forward.

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