Tell me about this push Slavic Village is making (Cleveland: neighborhoods, tenants)

[j_ws]

I think this is probably one of the best intersections in the entire city: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4674...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4670...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4669...7i13312!8i6656

It's in pretty good shape. It just needs worthwhile tenants to get people into the area.

As for that area around Hyacinth Park, I think a fair amount is getting ripped out for the Opportunity Corridor. Everything north of Francis will be gone, and I imagine they'll pull down a bunch of the other stuff in the area. I believe the NOACA TOD study also concentrated on this area, so it's conceivable that they will push for the whole neighborhood to be redeveloped in a much denser format.

[Clevelander216]

Originally Posted by j_ws

I think this is probably one of the best intersections in the entire city: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4674...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4670...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4669...7i13312!8i6656

It's in pretty good shape. It just needs worthwhile tenants to get people into the area.

As for that area around Hyacinth Park, I think a fair amount is getting ripped out for the Opportunity Corridor. Everything north of Francis will be gone, and I imagine they'll pull down a bunch of the other stuff in the area. I believe the NOACA TOD study also concentrated on this area, so it's conceivable that they will push for the whole neighborhood to be redeveloped in a much denser format.

Gosh darn, I agree about the E55/Broadway intersection! Why in the world haven't investors been flocking here?!?

[j_ws]

Originally Posted by Clevelander216

Gosh darn, I agree about the E55/Broadway intersection! Why in the world haven't investors been flocking here?!?

I think it's a product of location/distance from downtown, perception problems, and neighborhood population loss. North Broadway and Slavic Village are in a unique position where they managed to retain a ton of the original commercial stock even while they lost residents and housing. With so much commercial space available in an area with dwindling residents and relatively boring housing, there's a local population threshold they probably need to hit before real investment will occur.

Slavic Village Development is really trying to induce demand and I think the Fleet Ave reconstruction will help.

Thankfully that Broadway/55th intersection is still generally occupied and not degrading, so hopefully it can just chug along until a time comes where the area is primed for more investment.

Is crime in this area even particularly bad? I feel like most of the easily accessible data is per capita which would hurt a neighborhood with a small population and make it look worse than comparable neighborhoods.

[Clevelander216]

Originally Posted by j_ws

Is crime in this area even particularly bad? I feel like most of the easily accessible data is per capita which would hurt a neighborhood with a small population and make it look worse than comparable neighborhoods.

I would like to know the same! there is a house in the area that I am interested in buying and I've called the police department and city council numerous times regarding the safety of the area and of course I just keep getting transferred to different departments and eventually get led to some voicemail.... no one ever helps or returns my calls! it is so frustrating

[j_ws]

It might be worth reaching out to the CDC: Slavic Village | Staff & Board

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by j_ws

I think this is probably one of the best intersections in the entire city: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4674...7i13312!8i6656

I'm not familiar with the intersection, but it pales against several that come to my mind.

What is the basis of your comparison?

E.g., from the picture, it doesn't appear that many of the store fronts are occupied.

[j_ws]

Originally Posted by WRnative

I'm not familiar with the intersection, but it pales against several that come to my mind.

What is the basis of your comparison?

E.g., from the picture, it doesn't appear that many of the store fronts are occupied.

Just in terms of original buildings that are intact (almost all of them), urban scale, unique features like the placement of the church at the end of the curved segment of E55th.

Not really looking to start an argument over it. I just think it's one of the best original neighborhood CBDs in the city.

[bjimmy24]

E 55 and Broadway might look like it might be able to be a neighborhood, but spend some time walking around the area. It's dead.

[Clevelander216]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

E 55 and Broadway might look like it might be able to be a neighborhood, but spend some time walking around the area. It's dead.

I agree. The north portion right where the opportunity corridor is going is pretty desolate. Even the streets further down off E55 and Broadway such as Nursery, Hamm, Guy, Cable, etc. are all pretty blighted too. I wonder if that means it would actually be quieter and safer considering it's pretty vacant? lol

[TheProf]

Slavic Village is a substantial area in which there is some debate as to what actually is SV; some say they far north portion, just south of the Rapid station near Francis street, is NOT SV; others say Broadway-55th is really "North Broadway"... I don't know actually. But I still say that to "write off" SV along Fleet, even around E. 55-Broadway, where I acknowledge there is blight, esp on side streets, is unwise... Plus I really bristle at this talk of the supposed massive Polish (see "white") flight along Fleet to the suburbs... That talk is not only not true; it encourages it more than it is a fact.

But I remain steadfast in my belief that though SV has experienced a ton of problems and was obviously a national Ground Zero for the 2008 mortgage collapse, it has a lot of potential, in terms of the people still living there and the wealth of solid old buildings in its commercial areas... There's also still considerable in-tact housing along many SV streets, most of which have not been foreclosed upon.