Tell me about Cleveland (Russia: 2014, how much, house)

[trysometh]

Just looking for general info. I'm in the Seattle area, moved here from NYC. While I like it way more than NYC due to QOL issues, I don't know if its exactly my cup of tea. People in WA are mad corny, aloof, weird, passive aggressive, fake/flaky and smug (annoying as hell). Hard to connect with. Seattle is nice, but nothing special really, and many people here think they are hot **** when in reality they are just marks (hipsters). It's supposed to be a big city, but despite the large population, Seattle is pretty boring and low key, and many people tend to stay inside, partly cuz of rainy, cloudy weather, partly cuz of the mellow culture. I wonder how people in OH are towards newcomers and whether its more liberal than conservative. While I am not ultra liberal, I have been discriminated before due to my heritage (I'm a Russian immigrant) so that's important to me. I don't like anyone imposing their views on me. I am not a fan of depressing Seattle cloudiness 8-9 months/yr, but I also hate heat/humidity. What concerns me is the job market and the economy. I work the govt here. CLE seems like a real city with backbone and charcter, which is attractive to me coming from the NE and feels like it will be more similar to what Im used to in Ny/Nj vs Seattle. CLE is closer to east coast anyway, dont know if that affects anything, but older Midwest cities seem more aligned with older NE cities than West.

To sum it up:

What's the vibe like?
Would it be a culture shock to someone coming from NYC/WA?
How is the overall culture and mindset of people and race relations? Are there diverse suburbs?
Are there many things to do in the city and suburbs? How do people spend time usually?
How's nightlife? Are there good museums, strip clubs, concerts, restaurants?
Are there any good Hip Hop clubs, events, parties?
How's the women?

Any other relevant info will be helpful.

[jprice15]

Cleveland has a huge Russian and Polish presence (along with other Eastern European groups, I'm sure). As far as religion, some communities in CLE have the largest Jewish population per capita in the US. Race isn't an issue; people are accepting.

We have the Cleveland Orchestra, which is arguably the best in the US. During the summer, they play at an outdoor pavilion -Blossom Music Center. Blossom also attracts many of the biggest names outside of Classical music.

There are many other music options such as the House of Blues. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is in Cleveland

The art museum, which is free, is noted (regularly featured in WSJ and NY Times) for its fine collection. Cleveland's statue by
Praxiteles is one of (maybe the most) significant statues in the Western Hemisphere (Later Roman copies are in the Louvre and the Vatican). We have Water Lilies and other noted works by Monet, Degas and Renoir. Also, a noted European collection (crucifixion of st andrew, The Holy Family on the Steps) and a respected amour collection. The Far East collections (and perhaps Egyptian) collections are most noted.

We also have a contemporary art museum, natural history museum, botanical gardens, Western Reserve Historical Society, among others.

Cleveland has the largest theater district in the US, outside of NYC.

[trysometh]

Cool. Anything on the economy and the city vibe? I heard it has some rough parts.

[usernameunavailable]

Originally Posted by trysometh

Cool. Anything on the economy and the city vibe? I heard it has some rough parts.

The economy continues to get better year after year.

Being from NYC myself, the areas that are bad here (Midtown, parts of the Westside, etc) are no different than the South Bronx or East New York. They don't offer anything, so stay out of them and you will be fine.

[trysometh]

Originally Posted by usernameunavailable

The economy continues to get better year after year.

Being from NYC myself, the areas that are bad here (Midtown, parts of the Westside, etc) are no different than the South Bronx or East New York. They don't offer anything, so stay out of them and you will be fine.

Well i actually been to both those areas to meet some fine ghetto women, but I kno what u saying. What made u move to CLE? How u like it vs NYC?

[jprice15]

I'm not sure what you what to know regarding women. Yes, there are women in Cleveland. Yes, they range in looks, education, location, etc. I don't have much to say regarding your salacious question.

[trysometh]

Originally Posted by jprice15

I'm not sure what you what to know regarding women. Yes, there are women in Cleveland. Yes, they range in looks, education, location, etc. I don't have much to say regarding your salacious question.

Was a statement

[usernameunavailable]

Originally Posted by trysometh

Well i actually been to both those areas to meet some fine ghetto women, but I kno what u saying. What made u move to CLE? How u like it vs NYC?

A job opportunity is what made me move, and I really like it here. Has the big city feel, culture and amenities with the cost of living of a place that is in the middle of nowhere.

[trysometh]

Originally Posted by usernameunavailable

A job opportunity is what made me move, and I really like it here. Has the big city feel, culture and amenities with the cost of living of a place that is in the middle of nowhere.

Makes sense. How much for a decent 1 bd apt in a decent area? (Washer/dryer, parking)

[usernameunavailable]

Originally Posted by trysometh

Makes sense. How much for a decent 1 bd apt in a decent area? (Washer/dryer, parking)

Most new downtown apts are going about $1/sq ft so it really depends how big of a place your looking for