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Old 07-12-2015, 12:45 PM
 
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Oh and a couple more things... can someone update me on Waterloo? Are those places open, or what's going on over there? That's a neighborhood I think both of us would probably like, but I'm not sure I wanna visit if everything is still under construction or closed.

And on a slightly more serious note, does anyone know how the classical music scene in Cleveland is, outside of Severance Hall? My girlfriend is a classically trained violinist and vocalist and is really a superior talent, is there any hope of any employment of some kind in Cleveland, whether it's performing or teaching?
You should definitely visit the Cleveland Institute of Music and the Cleveland Music Settlement. Both are superb, and likely, especially if she contacted them in advance, somebody could advice here about the local job market.

Oberlin also has one of the nation's great music conservatories, which she might enjoy visiting.

The problem is, as I know persons with classical music backgrounds, is that there is a glut of well-credentialed individuals looking for employment in this field. An example of the competition:

The Cleveland Orchestra announces three new members - AXS

Concert Listings for July 6

clevelandclassical.com

To my knowledge, construction is complete in the Waterloo area. Are you certain your girlfriend would enjoy the likes of the Beachland Ballroom? It might be a little grungy for a classically trained violinist!

Waterloo Arts District will celebrate new streetscape Friday with gallery openings, concerts, new pubs (slideshow) | cleveland.com

BTW, check out the performance schedule at the Happy Dog in the Gordon Square Arts District. It sometimes hosts free performances by members of the Cleveland Orchestra. The Happy Dog has one of its famous Polka Happy Hours scheduled for Aug. 28.

Happy Dog (Cleveland, Ohio)

Note that the impressive 78th St. Studios also has an open house every Friday afternoon.

78th Street Studios
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Old 07-12-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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Jimmy, IMO Maxmodder is a downer on Cleveland, especially northeast Ohio weather, trying to justify his move to Mason, OH, from Cleveland, as you probably well know if you've followed his posts.

As somebody who attends many winter-time events in Cleveland, I don't remember persons being depressed by winter weather (which Maxmodder would hammer if you weren't moving from New England), the Browns, or anything else. If anything, they're excited by the opportunity to get out and do something and meet with folks. As both of you are natives of cold weather cities and live in Boston, you certainly understand this and obviously aren't dissuaded by winter weather! Many events that I attend actually take place during Browns games, such as Sunday matinees, and lousy Browns teams actually makes it easier to make the decision to attend. :-)

Some events actually are enhanced by winter weather, such as the superb Cleveland Orchestra holiday concerts and seasonal events at PlayhouseSquare.

Brite Winter | Cleveland

Cleveland Kurentovanje

Too bad that you can't experience a First Friday Mix event at the Cleveland Museum of Art, or a Third Friday at the 78th St. Studios!

MIX at CMA | Cleveland Museum of Art
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Old 07-12-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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Urban Peasant, Shaker Square is a good call- it certainly is reminiscent of Boston! Is Deweys Coffee and the Balaton still open? I meant to go to Feliz on larchmere last time I was back, but failed to do so, so I will have to try again. Is there a particular part of the metroparks that would be especially appealing? She loves piano bars and karaoke and stuff, but I was never really into that before when I lived in Cleveland, does anyone know a good place? Lolly is a great idea, and so is Pier W! Thanks guys for all the ideas so far, I feel like even I could use a little more Cleveland experience now.
The Balaton and Dewey's still are open. The Balaton is highly recommended if she would enjoy Hungarian food.

Shaker Square Restaurant Directory

If you drive there, the best parking for both is the free lot behind the CVS store in the northeast quadrant. The lot's entrance is off N. Moreland.

Directions, maps and parking for Shaker Square
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Old 07-12-2015, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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My girlfriend has accompanied me to Fenway Park before, but really doesn't care about sports, just the beer that comes with it. I'm pretty sure the only NFL players she knows are Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Unfortunately for us Bostonians, 99% of our lives are lived away from sports games, so even the most die hard fan still has to deal with reality. Oh and besides, this last Boston winter was BY FAR the worst I've ever seen, and I've lived in Cleveland and Russia for god's sake!

I do love Boston, but seeing as neither of us have family here (she's from Minnesota)and considering we both know how much cheaper the midwest is, we're just looking into trying to do what makes the most sense for the future (whatever that may end up being). I'm just trying to show her that Cleveland is cheap, which she already knows, but also cool and different from other places. We already went to Minneapolis-St. Paul together last month, which was lovely and I definitely wouldn't mind moving there, but I'm just trying to prove Cleveland is even better.

Urban Peasant, Shaker Square is a good call- it certainly is reminiscent of Boston! Is Deweys Coffee and the Balaton still open? I meant to go to Feliz on larchmere last time I was back, but failed to do so, so I will have to try again. Is there a particular part of the metroparks that would be especially appealing? She loves piano bars and karaoke and stuff, but I was never really into that before when I lived in Cleveland, does anyone know a good place? Lolly is a great idea, and so is Pier W! Thanks guys for all the ideas so far, I feel like even I could use a little more Cleveland experience now.
Bjimmy, I ate at Balaton while I was there. I sincerely hope it's still there because it was some of the best food I've ever eaten and I'd like to eat there again the next time I visit. Lolly the Trolley according to my Moon Cleveland guidebook, is actually Boston inspired. The operator apparently visited Boston and saw what companies like Old Town Trolley and Beantown Trolley were doing and liked the idea so much that she started her own trolley tour company in Cleveland. Unlike others, I'm not a bar hopper at all and so I can't help you there but if you're into more ethnic food, there's always Asiatown, Little Italy, and similar ethnic neighborhoods for a change. All in all, I don't think you're missing that much if you move back to Cleveland.

It's too bad you didn't move to Boston 20 years ago. Back then both rents and real estate in practically every neighborhood except Back Bay and Beacon Hill were really affordable and the neighborhoods of South End, South Boston, Jamaica Plain and even parts of Allston/Brighton were grittier, more working class. Washington Street in the South End eerily resembled Chester Avenue and Euclid Avenue. Not anymore though as you know.

Good luck if you and your girlfriend do decide to move back after this trip. Sometimes I wonder why I'm not doing something similar.
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Old 07-12-2015, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The Balaton and Dewey's still are open.
WR is ahead of me. Question answered.
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Old 07-12-2015, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Bjimmy, I ate at Balaton while I was there. I sincerely hope it's still there because it was some of the best food I've ever eaten and I'd like to eat there again the next time I visit. Lolly the Trolley according to my Moon Cleveland guidebook, is actually Boston inspired. The operator apparently visited Boston and saw what companies like Old Town Trolley and Beantown Trolley were doing and liked the idea so much that she started her own trolley tour company in Cleveland. Unlike others, I'm not a bar hopper at all and so I can't help you there but if you're into more ethnic food, there's always Asiatown, Little Italy, and similar ethnic neighborhoods for a change. All in all, I don't think you're missing that much if you move back to Cleveland.

It's too bad you didn't move to Boston 20 years ago. Back then both rents and real estate in practically every neighborhood except Back Bay and Beacon Hill were really affordable and the neighborhoods of South End, South Boston, Jamaica Plain and even parts of Allston/Brighton were grittier, more working class. Washington Street in the South End eerily resembled Chester Avenue and Euclid Avenue. Not anymore though as you know.

Good luck if you and your girlfriend do decide to move back after this trip. Sometimes I wonder why I'm not doing something similar.
Wow- interesting about Lolly the Trolley. And Asiatown is a good plan too. The last time I was there, I think they had the Cleveland Flea there, is that still happening?

I do get the image from talking to people around Boston that this area probably used to be a lot more "Clevelandy" back in the day. I follow the Dirty Old Boston facebook page, which always posts great stuff that I'm jealous I didn't experience. I still love Boston and have enjoyed life here, just when I think about all the money I spend on rent and the fact that I could have a downpayment already on a much bigger place, closer to the center in Cleveland, it's kinda hard to justify unless I can like double my salary here.
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Old 07-12-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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If weather is decent, go to Merwin's in the flats, rent a couple of Zagster bikes, peddle across the green lift bridge and go up to Hoople's and hang a south on the new paved bike trail. Take this down to the Scranton Road peninsula and watch the boats. Then continue on and cross the blue lift bridge and into the east bank of the flats. Then, go into downtown and bum around, grab lunch, etc. Go back down to the flats and cross the red swing bridge and go up to W 25th. Then find your way back down to Hooples and take the bikes back. Do this on a Saturday or Sunday morning so traffic is low. Three classic bridges, 3 different colors, 3 hours, and all Cleveland.
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Old 07-12-2015, 06:12 PM
 
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My girlfriend has accompanied me to Fenway Park before, but really doesn't care about sports, just the beer that comes with it. I'm pretty sure the only NFL players she knows are Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Unfortunately for us Bostonians, 99% of our lives are lived away from sports games, so even the most die hard fan still has to deal with reality. Oh and besides, this last Boston winter was BY FAR the worst I've ever seen, and I've lived in Cleveland and Russia for god's sake!

I do love Boston, but seeing as neither of us have family here (she's from Minnesota)and considering we both know how much cheaper the midwest is, we're just looking into trying to do what makes the most sense for the future (whatever that may end up being). I'm just trying to show her that Cleveland is cheap, which she already knows, but also cool and different from other places. We already went to Minneapolis-St. Paul together last month, which was lovely and I definitely wouldn't mind moving there, but I'm just trying to prove Cleveland is even better.

Urban Peasant, Shaker Square is a good call- it certainly is reminiscent of Boston! Is Deweys Coffee and the Balaton still open? I meant to go to Feliz on larchmere last time I was back, but failed to do so, so I will have to try again. Is there a particular part of the metroparks that would be especially appealing? She loves piano bars and karaoke and stuff, but I was never really into that before when I lived in Cleveland, does anyone know a good place? Lolly is a great idea, and so is Pier W! Thanks guys for all the ideas so far, I feel like even I could use a little more Cleveland experience now.

As someone who relocated to NE OH, from the North Shore of LI, and who attended college outside of Boston, I can see many similarities between New England and Cleveland and the Connecticut Western Reserve.

Like LI's North Shore, the area was settled by New Englanders. There are many highly competitive colleges in Ohio - and Coventry has a mini Greenwich Village - Cambridge like feel. She may also enjoy Geneva-on -the-Lake, winery visits, micro brew visits, Put-In-Bay and the Rock Hall.

North Easterners like all things nautical. The North Coast has a vibrant nautical culture. The sea food is different but very good!

You guys know more than I do, but having come from the East, I can say that it is not a terribly tough sell. There are many commonalities.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:09 PM
 
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bjimmy, even though your visits have been sparse, you have more than a working knowledge of the City, so accept this advice as non-condescending. I too am an ex-pat looking to move back to C-Town in the hopefully near future ... the difference is that I visit the City -- family, friends and biz associates -- a lot more often than you (esp in the Summertime) so I may have a bit better feel for Cleveland as it is now. (others even closer than I have given you some great tips, I just want to supplement them...)

It's changing so fast that, but the time you and GF arrive in late August, one new major development will, at least, be partially online by then: Phase II of Flats East Bank. The apartment building should be finished with many of the restaurants and clubs in and around the building open by then. Also, adjacent the boardwalk along the River should be open by then, too... Phase II should supplement the well-done Phase I very nicely and, you will probably be able to spend an entire evening bar-hopping in this one small area.

The 9, as mentioned above, is also an evening out in itself, esp on a warm weekend night, as some have noted. The restaurants and lounges, esp the trendy, view-laden Azure rooftop lounge is a must. As noted by a previous poster, the whole complex, esp the Azure, have a distinct Manhattan feel about them; they're the place to see and be seen, and some degree of dress (men's jacket, no sneaks) is required. Cleveland's celebs, and well known visitors, are attracted to this place like a magnet.

But before you hit those places in the 9, while it's daylight, you and the GF need to drop by Heinen's, which is part of the 9 complex... Why a supermarket you ask!?... Because this place is a supermarket, ... and then some. For one thing, not many supermarkets were carved out of a beautiful turn of the (20th) century bank building, complete with a breathtaking rotunda. The supermarket is attached to the Rotunda, but while you may want to pick up nick-knacks at the supermarket, you can dine on many items in the food court in the Rotunda's ground level. On the 2nd level, there's a unique vending-card activated wine-tasting and beer tasting area where there are couches and tables along the railing where you can look down on the Rotunda's first level... Heinen's, like the rest of the 9 has been an instant hit with Clevelanders and is an awesome place.

You may have already taken in the casino and/or casinos may not be your thing -- but this one's pretty interesting. It's setting in Cleveland's old main downtown department store as well as it's location right in the heart of town adjacent to the main transit hub, make it unique.

Finally, one piece of general advice, esp for Saturday: ditch the ride! Use RTA, cabs and even Uber. The Rapid takes you to most hotspots - Ohio City, Shaker Square, the Flats, the Rock Hall, and University Circle... and by the time you guys get there, the new University Circle-Little Italy should be open, which will be bright, new and well located for both neighborhoods (right at the doorstep of Little Italy's main strip), including the hot new (and still growing) Uptown restaurant/retail/entertainment district, including the funk Museum of Contemporary Arts (MOCA)... The Health Line picks up where the Rapid leaves off. Maybe on Sunday when it's quieter you can tool around the outer city and/or burbs (the Heights, Chagrin Falls, Lakewood Gold Coast, etc).
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Old 07-13-2015, 08:36 AM
 
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bjimmy24,if you arrive in town Thursday morning;you'll be able to check out "Edgewater Live" at Edgewater Park from around 5pm to 8:30pm. A beach party with a live band every Thursday thru the summer!She might like that? Also see who's playing at the Beachland Ballroom on Waterloo.I came through there a couple of weeks ago and all the construction appears to be complete. The new Flats East Bank is supposed to be up and running this SUMMER!
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