12-28-2015, 11:28 PM
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Comparing total monthly/yearly cost of living across states when considering a move from one location to another is something that I did. And while you certainly get what you pay for, there are ways to get what the next guy is paying for but paying much less. I've lived in the deep south and it wasn't all that bad. What did you not get in the south that you could have gotten up north by paying for it?
Then they best be keeping up that good work. I was in downtown CLE last week and it felt like mid 60's. I will be in Mentor area visiting relatives Christmas Eve and it looks like it will be no snow this entire week and wed will be low 60's.
Keep these El Nino's coming.
If you are used to snow and cold, that's great but not everyone is in that same boat. Not everyone likes relocating from areas of warmth in the winter and having to deal with a typical Cleveland winter, or any other northern winter. I don't understand why Cleveland natives get so defensive about the area when people talk about winters there. You can't control the weather so who cares. If you want to live there, accept the fact that a majority of winters are going to be cold, and that driving conditions may or may not be unpleasant at certain times depending on several factors. If someone doesn't like the cold, this place nor any other norther state with similar temps/snow fall may not be for them.
It's more that it's the only thing people mention about Cleveland and the weather is hardly the 1st thing one hears about Boston, New York, Chicago, Detroit. So cares is right? People need to stop mentioning it then. Your winter weather conditions scenario is hardly unique to Cleveland.
12-29-2015, 05:32 AM
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I suspect if the OP were moving to any of those other cities, she would hear about the weather. (In my Florida girlhood, when a friend took a job in northern Alabama, we worried that she would freeze to death.)
01-02-2016, 07:39 AM
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I moved here in 2008 from Boston, so I was used to winter weather. There are so many perks to living in the Cleveland area, especially the cost of living. The summers are awesome, and you never feel as if you're landlocked because of Lake Erie.
03-19-2016, 09:13 PM
Location: Fairport Harbor, Ohio
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I'm not following you.
Why are folks "giving you crap" about living in this area?
I am 59 years old, will be 60 on my next birthday. Grew up in Wickliffe in western Lake County and an eastern suburb of Cleveland, and moved to Fairport Harbor, near Painesville in east-central Lake County, 16 years ago. I like living in northeastern Ohio, as I was born in East Cleveland and raised in Wickliffe, moving to Fairport in late 1999 due to very unfortunate circumstances. I will be staying in Fairport Harbor indefinitely, as I enjoy living in a small town (our population is currently just under 3100) as opposed to a good-sized Cleveland suburb (Wickliffe's population was something on the order of 12,500 at the last census).
Granted, Cleveland has its problems, but I am sure there are far worse places to live. I am very sorry that folks are giving you such a hard time about moving to northeast Ohio. Have any of these people actually been to or seen Cleveland and its suburbs recently? Certainly, Cleveland has been made fun of more than it should be (being referred to back in the late '60s and '70s as "the mistake on the lake", for example, because of the infamous Cuyahoga River fire in 1969), but the area isn't nearly as bad as all that. I don't know much about the west side of Cleveland, but Lake County is a very nice place to live if you don't mind being miles away from the city. Here in Fairport Harbor, I am 30 miles from downtown, but I live on disability so driving to and from work in the city isn't a concern for me.
Don't let others' opinions bother you. Northeastern Ohio is a great place to live, the area's weather (we often get heavy snow off Lake Erie in the winter, due to a phenomenon known as the "lake effect") and Lake County's distance from Cleveland notwithstanding. If you want to be closer to town, I would suggest moving to one of the city's Cuyahoga County suburbs such as Cleveland Heights, which is only about five miles from downtown. I lived there for three years in the early '70s (long story) and didn't like it in the least, but I returned to Wickliffe (an eastern suburb of Cleveland) in 1975, stayed there 24 years, then came to Fairport Harbor in 1999 and have not looked back.
For quite a while, Cleveland was Ohio's largest city, but it was overtaken by the city of Columbus about ten years ago (approximately; don't hold me to it) when farmlands surrounding the city were annexed to it. Just an interesting bit of Ohio history trivia.
I hope you enjoy living in northeastern Ohio, should you decide to move here. It's not Chicago, New York or certainly not Los Angeles, but for what it is, it is a very livable area. For years the Cleveland Electric Illuminating Company (now known as FirstEnergy) had a slogan, "Serving the Best Location in the Nation", which it proudly printed on its bills.
Good luck, and again, I hope you will like it here. Ohio is a great Midwestern state, one I have called home all my life. I'm sure you will like it here too. Our state slogan, one of them, anyway, is "The Heart Of It All"; the other is "The Birthplace of Aviation", coming from the fact that the Wright Brothers, who invented heavier-than-air flight, were from the Dayton area.
03-20-2016, 12:27 PM
Location: Lakewood OH
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So I wonder what happened to Mamabear. I hope she didn't listen to the naysayers from afar and will return here tell us what her decision is/was.
Long distance moving is a huge gamble. I have done it twice. There are no guarantees as to how it will turn out but listening to others who have never lived in the places you are considering especially those who have never even been to those places is the worst possible thing you can do.
People like to spout knowledge based only on hearsay. I think many people who have never been to Cleveland have told her about stereotypes, old tall tales and given her information about which they had no first hand knowledge. I'll take negative information along with the positive from anyone who has been someplace or is living in that place I don't listen to secondhand opinions from those who haven't. People did that when I told them I was considering moving to Cleveland and I stopped them cold when I asked them "When did you visit/live there?" and they couldn't answer.
I hope whatever decision Mamabear has made or will make it will be based on what she hears from those who really know what they are talking about.
03-22-2016, 01:02 PM
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Cleveland and surrounding area are great places to live!!!!!!! Cleveland and it"s surrounding area has a very large population with with large suburbs also contrary to many peoples believe that live in other states. It's a great city and everyone will see nationwide with the republican convention coming in July. I have been to many other areas and although some winters are colder than others! Chicago, Detroit along with Minnesota and Indianapolis share the same weather as Cleveland and they are great cities to live and raise a family as well. If you haven't been there then how would you know!!! Spend some time there and you will see for yourself. Great places to visit and many fine restaurants to eat at. It has everything that you could ask for just like any other area in the country. The spring, summer and fall are great every year even though winters can get cold but that's not every year, this winter as an example. It doesn't have any more problems than any other area in the country. Lake Erie is a great secret!!!!!! It's beautiful!!!!! I live very close to it. I spend a lot of time near the lake and the islands as well. They are very close to Cleveland and are easy to get to. Try it sometime. You could not find a nicer place to go. Come visit and see for yourself. You would decide to live there live there in a flash.
03-22-2016, 01:16 PM
Location: CA
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I just sent the Bingham a request for a quote: $ to stay for July! they have short term rentals. Looking for a month. I will visit family in Maine, but want 2-3 weeks in CLE!
05-10-2016, 11:02 AM
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We ended up staying in GA. I visited Ohio with hubby back in March, we drove around several communities in Summit Co and realized we had "grass is greener" attitude. We realized we have a beautiful home down here in GA, we have an awesome church, a good neighborhood filled with kids, yes it's hot but after living in the south for the past 18 years it's hard to go to pot hole filled roads again, I know it's petty but a lot of the roads look like crap!!!! We have heard from several people we know who have lived in NE Ohio that it's a great area, which I am sure it is, we just felt we had more to lose than gain by relocating.
05-10-2016, 11:10 AM
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We ended up staying in GA. I visited Ohio with hubby back in March, we drove around several communities in Summit Co and realized we had "grass is greener" attitude. We realized we have a beautiful home down here in GA, we have an awesome church, a good neighborhood filled with kids, yes it's hot but after living in the south for the past 18 years it's hard to go to pot hole filled roads again, I know it's petty but a lot of the roads look like crap!!!! We have heard from several people we know who have lived in NE Ohio that it's a great area, which I am sure it is, we just felt we had more to lose than gain by relocating.
Roads can't be permanently repaired after the freeze/thaw cycle until warmer weather. Perhaps communities avoid the cost of temporary patches in some cases.
Greater Clevelanders get used to dodging potholes. As we know they'll eventually be repaired in most communities once possible, we find it a topic of bemused discussion, perhaps like mosquitoes, powerful storms, excess heat, etc., in the South.
I'm not looking forward to the time that we have to deal with problems such as fire ants, Formosan termites, killer bees, Zika virus, etc., due to climate change. As someone who enjoys our great parks, the northward march of kudzu saddens me. If the potholes is the consequence of avoiding these problems, I'll take potholes.
It always saddens me when prospective residents visit in March, not seeing the best of any of Cleveland's seasons. Candidly, March may be the worst month in most years, although occasionally it's brilliant with temperatures well above normal.
BOL with your decision!!!
05-11-2016, 07:01 AM
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Cleveland is a really nice City, some of the Suburbs are top notch. Best schools like Solon,Mentor,Westlake if you making 100k as a family you will definitely enjoy it cost of living is much less then some other cities
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Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)