If You Were Running for Mayor or Elected Mayor of Cleveland, Which Issues Would You Address? (Columbus: felons, employment)

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Cavs owner Dan Gilbert kills deal to renovate Quicken Loans Arena | cleveland.com

You can remove the CAVS from your tax-takers list...and quite possibly you can delete them from your CLE sports teams list as well in the future.

Wonder what the mayoral ''candidates'' will say about this debacle?

Just because Art Modell left doesn't mean Dan Gilbert will move the team. I think he would sell before moving it, he's a more savvier businessman than Modell was. Modell was horrible.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

Just because Art Modell left doesn't mean Dan Gilbert will move the team. I think he would sell before moving it, he's a more savvier businessman than Modell was. Modell was horrible.

I expect the Q deal to be re-set and Gilbert will keep the Cavs in CLE given his vested interests in downtown CLE, which continue to expand.

Still, the Q deal was done and should be in construction now.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

Dude, this isn't about George Forbes (I was too young to remember George Forbes) this is about what issues would you address now in 2017 if you were running for mayor or elected mayor. Not paying your bills isn't ghetto that's irresponsible; Forbes not paying his bills back in the day is no more different than Trump not paying his bills or his workers. I know you got issues with Zach Reed and Jeff Johnson, I get it. Save that for another forum. What issues would you address?

Well, let's hope the Jeff Johnson issue is resolved tonight. Btw, the point of the Forbes video wasn't that he didn't pay his bills but to give an idea of the temperament and thug mentality that Jeff Johnson would bring back to CLE and City Hall.

To say Zach Reed and Jeff Johnson are not issues in this election is misplaced.

Other issues, getting nucleus off the ground, presenting an Amazon bid, building the lakeftont pedestrian bridges, and addressing ''quality of life'' crimes.

Jackson needs to address the broader crime problem but with the country's current police vs. public issues, that's tough to do. Not sure how Jackson can be a anti-crime crusader given that his criminal grandson lives in his own house. A bit hypocritical.

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Well, let's hope the Jeff Johnson issue is resolved tonight. Btw, the point of the Forbes video wasn't that he didn't pay his bills but to give an idea of the temperament and thug mentality that Jeff Johnson would bring back to CLE and City Hall.

To say Zach Reed and Jeff Johnson are not issues in this election is misplaced.

Other issues, getting nucleus off the ground, presenting an Amazon bid, building the lakeftont pedestrian bridges, and addressing ''quality of life'' crimes.

Jackson needs to address the broader crime problem but with the country's current police vs. public issues, that's tough to do. Not sure how Jackson can be a anti-crime crusader given that his criminal grandson lives in his own house. A bit hypocritical.

You misquoted my words, I never said they didn't have issues. All I'm saying is that you have your issues with them, I just wanted to know if you were still living in Cleveland what issues would you want them to address. I also agree that the issues you posted definitely need to addressed, but I also feel that jobs and education need to address as well that'll help curb down the crime rate. As far as the lakefront bridges, the city is working on plans to build them, there's just isn't a start date yet.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

You misquoted my words, I never said they didn't have issues. All I'm saying is that you have your issues with them, I just wanted to know if you were still living in Cleveland what issues would you want them to address. I also agree that the issues you posted definitely need to addressed, but I also feel that jobs and education need to address as well that'll help curb down the crime rate. As far as the lakefront bridges, the city is working on plans to build them, there's just isn't a start date yet.

There can be a bit of misunderstanding in these posts.

The jobs, crime, and education issues are cliché in CLE. How many decades of negative to slow job growth and politicians using them in their cliché campaigns does it take?

What's frightening with the early results is if Jackson had bowed-out of the race, Zach Reed would be in 1st place. A Mayor Reed simply cannot happen in Cleveland.

Millennials, boomerangs, and empty-nesters need to take over CLE ASAP so CLE can have a future.

Who will be the mayoral contenders next time? Who will win next time?

CLE at one time had jobs, tolerable crime (mafia hits were amongst their own), and a top public school system.

CLE also has a long history of socialism.

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by Kamms

There can be a bit of misunderstanding in these posts.

The jobs, crime, and education issues are cliché in CLE. How many decades of negative to slow job growth and politicians using them in their cliché campaigns does it take?

What's frightening with the early results is if Jackson had bowed-out of the race, Zach Reed would be in 1st place. A Mayor Reed simply cannot happen in Cleveland.

Millennials, boomerangs, and empty-nesters need to take over CLE ASAP so CLE can have a future.

Who will be the mayoral contenders next time? Who will win next time?

CLE at one time had jobs, tolerable crime (mafia hits were amongst their own), and a top public school system.

CLE also has a long history of socialism.

You say the jobs, crime and education issues are cliche in Cleveland, but those are the issues that are plaguing Cleveland. It's not just a Cleveland cliche, it's an American cliche; read any local newspaper that has an upcoming mayoral race and they'll be saying the same thing. The kids need to be educated properly, the adults need to provide for their families, and everyone should feel safe. That's why a lot of the millennials and empty nesters are moving. Why did you move out of Cleveland to Philly?

I did like some of the things that Jeff Johnson was purposing like bringing back the Neighborhood Mini-Station for the police, putting more cops on the streets, remodeling abandoned houses and hiring more housing inspectors to make sure the houses are up to code. I disagree that Cleveland has a long history of socialism, liberalism maybe, but not socialism. Socialism doesn't equal Democrat just like conservationism doesn't equal Republican.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by QCongress83216

You say the jobs, crime and education issues are cliche in Cleveland, but those are the issues that are plaguing Cleveland. It's not just a Cleveland cliche, it's an American cliche; read any local newspaper that has an upcoming mayoral race and they'll be saying the same thing. The kids need to be educated properly, the adults need to provide for their families, and everyone should feel safe. That's why a lot of the millennials and empty nesters are moving. Why did you move out of Cleveland to Philly?

I did like some of the things that Jeff Johnson was purposing like bringing back the Neighborhood Mini-Station for the police, putting more cops on the streets, remodeling abandoned houses and hiring more housing inspectors to make sure the houses are up to code. I disagree that Cleveland has a long history of socialism, liberalism maybe, but not socialism. Socialism doesn't equal Democrat just like conservationism doesn't equal Republican.

Well, it's a CLE cliché because for decades it's been jobs, crime, and education. Of course all cities pols say the same thing but pretty much all of the large cities have been able to turn jobs, crime, education issues around at least to a degree, some a lot more so than others. CLE's are cliché because there hasn't been any results.

Didn't move from CLE to Philly directly; why do most people have to leave CLE? Opportunities are elsewhere.

If you aren't aware of Cleveland's socialist tendencies then you need to brush up on that topic and Jeff Johnson. Who is supposed to remodel these homes? Johnson is not interested in bringing jobs or millennials into Cleveland.

Socialism does = Democratic in Cleveland.

I wouldn't tout the Democratic/Liberal history of CLE either given its current state. From a top 10 U.S. city in 1970 to #51 in 2016.

If a Zach Reed can make as an actual contender to be mayor, I'll be staying back east. Reed is an old school ''flashy dude''; it's all about 'dem threads. Have you seen his accomplishments in CLE government the past 17 years? Zilch, and yet he could be mayor.

I gotta completely bail on you though given that you would buy into Jeff Johnson's b.s. More cops on the streets?

Amazon is not going anywhere near the City of Cleveland.

Btw, the kids were properly educated in Cleveland at one time. Good luck with that issue.

Thanks for reminding me of Philly...on that note, adios Cleveland and city-forum. I need to focus on my new town.

I hope to make it to CLE for the World Series parade...if not hope to head up to NYC for a Tribe-Yankees post-season series. Go Tribe.

[QCongress83216]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Well, it's a CLE cliché because for decades it's been jobs, crime, and education. Of course all cities pols say the same thing but pretty much all of the large cities have been able to turn jobs, crime, education issues around at least to a degree, some a lot more so than others. CLE's are cliché because there hasn't been any results.

Didn't move from CLE to Philly directly; why do most people have to leave CLE? Opportunities are elsewhere.

If you aren't aware of Cleveland's socialist tendencies then you need to brush up on that topic and Jeff Johnson. Who is supposed to remodel these homes? Johnson is not interested in bringing jobs or millennials into Cleveland.

Socialism does = Democratic in Cleveland.

I wouldn't tout the Democratic/Liberal history of CLE either given its current state. From a top 10 U.S. city in 1970 to #51 in 2016.

If a Zach Reed can make as an actual contender to be mayor, I'll be staying back east. Reed is an old school ''flashy dude''; it's all about 'dem threads. Have you seen his accomplishments in CLE government the past 17 years? Zilch, and yet he could be mayor.

I gotta completely bail on you though given that you would buy into Jeff Johnson's b.s. More cops on the streets?

Amazon is not going anywhere near the City of Cleveland.

Btw, the kids were properly educated in Cleveland at one time. Good luck with that issue.

Thanks for reminding me of Philly...on that note, adios Cleveland and city-forum. I need to focus on my new town.

I hope to make it to CLE for the World Series parade...if not hope to head up to NYC for a Tribe-Yankees post-season series. Go Tribe.

Dude, I was asking why did YOU move to Philly, your personal reasons. I wasn't putting you down for moving to Philly nor did I say that you can't comment on Cleveland while living in another city. I'm not a Jeff Johnson cheerleader all I said is I like some of his ideas. And, I'm not a fan of Zach Reed either, I've met him in person; he came to my job (I work for the library). He is a straight *******. Now, if you got something against him, ok you have a right to feel how you feel. What do you suggest to bring millennials and jobs to Cleveland?

I wasn't expecting Amazon coming to Cleveland. Where did you get that assumption from? Bezos did that to get more free publicity. Plus, Philly and the East Coast isn't anymore Democratic than Cleveland. In fact, Philly has a long history of being under the Democratic Party. You would've been better off moving to a more conservative city. Yes, kids in Cleveland were properly educated at one time, but now they aren't well-educated to compete in the current job market.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by Kamms

CLE also has a long history of socialism.

What are you talking about? Do you even know what socialism is? Apparently you consider Muny Light and public ownership of water and sewer systems, as well as mass transit, socialism???

[Kamms]

An issue related to Mayor Frank Jackson was raised this week: hiring ex-Common Pleas Court Judge Lance Mason for some ''minority business development'' nonsense job. Mason is the convicted felon who beat his wife in a car with their children present. After beating his wife, Mason tossed her out of the car. Nice guy.

Where are all the ''outraged'' SJWs? Where are all the women groups, civil rights, and antifa groups? Why isn't CLE City Hall being ''occupied''? Where is Marcia Fudge's outrage; maybe it's tempered since she may have a hand in Mason's hiring. Even if she didn't, where's the outrage?

The issue that needs to be addressed: don't hire violent politically connected convicted felons. Also, don't created these crony ''minority business development'' jobs for these manipulators.

It's even worse for CLE now: Jackson is a hypocrite while Zach Reed waits to take the Mayor job. At least Reed didn't injure or kill anyone related to his DUI convictions (plural).